Arkashean Q&A Session -- 092
JORGE: What we believe...it has to be individual, it's true, but it's a group thing, we're talking about a group writing here. So if it is set forth for this group as Universal Maat, if you go against that, what you're doing is evil.
PETER: Again, now you're getting into a broad definition of evil that may not necessarily be true. Let's just say you're not honoring a more appropriate value.
JORGE: Exactly.
PETER: You're not honoring your Maat.
JORGE: I guess we need to find out how the...what's the definition of doing evil as it's used in...
PETER: I wouldn't personally call it doing evil. You're doing a lot of things to yourself but, evil per se? Uhhh...you got to define what evil is in this context.
JORGE: Right.
CLARE: When Therry went through each of these lines he didn't stop and pause at evil and say, "Well, I want to change that," 'cause he did change other words, so it must be something to ask.
PAUL: That is very, very old, that stuff.
CLARE: What do you mean?
PAUL: That's the one thing you have to bear in mind.
CLARE: Meaning?
PAUL: He didn't make that up.
CLARE: It was channeled through?
PAUL: That stuff could very well be from 2000 to 5000 years ago. Somebody brought that down and out of respect for that, we use the same language and the same phraseology.
CLARE: Okay.
PAUL: And so, they used evil because that was, that was...you know, how it worked back then.
JORGE: 2000 years ago the English language you know, maybe wasn't there and all of this was written so evil would be a translation of something else.
PETER: Sure.
JORGE: So what is the definition of that translation? And then evil may not be the right word.
CLARE: Yeah, we need to know...
PETER: Yeah, the way we use it today, typically is a Christian, you know, definition of evil. It's the first thing that comes to everybody's mind...
JAY: Evil doers!
CLARE: "I strive not to do evil to mankind!" But you started out by saying, just thinking in terms of being negative or being...having a negative way about you...
PETER: No, because he's using the word "evil" in a personal statement to...an assessment of one's personal Maat and I'm extrapolating the definition whereas if you're not doing these things, you're doing evil to yourself.
PAUL: It's about transgression against law. That's what...that's how in my opinion how evil is a transgression against what you have accepted as right from wrong.
PETER: Right, exactly. Right...
CLARE: Uh-hmmm.
PAUL: But one man's right is another man's wrong.
PETER: Right, that's it.
CLARE: The word "evil"...
PETER: Yeah, she's looking up the word "evil" from a dictionary. Effectively, it's going to be...more of a...What is it...speak!
CLARE: You want to read it?
SANDY: No, you can read it.
PETER: She can't handle it! She can't handle a definition! [Chuckle]
CLARE: I can't see anything...
SANDY: I'm going in 3 minutes.
PETER: [Chuckle]
PAUL: Not for long.
JAY: You'll know it when you meet it.
PETER: We could call a...call a...
CLARE: O-o-h, it's long.
PETER: Yeah.
CLARE: Well, this is, okay, the first definition, which is always the most prevalent, "Morally bad, or wrong. Wicked. See synonyms for bad."
PETER: Here you go, stop there, I mean. Is it bad that...that can be considered bad if you don't do these things, as far as we consider it to be.
SUZANNE: Yeah.
PETER: So there's a definition of evil right there that fits...
SUZANNE: Oh.
CLARE: Try not to be bad?
PETER: Try not to do bad or immoral, yeah. Very good.
CLARE: Alright. "Causing ruin, injury or pain, harmful. Bad or blameworthy by report. Marked by anger or spite, malicious. An evil force, power or personification."
JORGE: You know, maybe malicious is the closest thing we've come to yet, 'cause that's intent...
PAUL: Yeah.
CLARE: Yeah. Uh-hmmm.
PAUL: On the other hand, what if, you know, if every civilization that's ever come around, I'm not saying that this is going to happen, but if every civilization that ever comes to Earth eventually has some law or something where they say that you should not murder other people, that maybe...maybe after thousands of years you're going to get the impression that maybe that actually is from higher and humans are just born with an innate knowledge that you shouldn't do that. So there may, there may be, you know, Universal standards but they're veils that hide the truth.
PETER: Well, it becomes part of the gene pool of human development, effectively...
CLARE: That's right.
PETER: I mean it...it turns into an ingram for the ...for the human species...
SUZANNE: But societally, people know certain things are wrong, the laws reinforce that.
CLARE: Psychically you said?
JORGE: Societally...
SUZANNE: Soci-et-ally.
CLARE: Oh, societally!
SUZANNE: Yeah, people know murder's wrong because of laws, t.v. etc. They know certain things are wrong.
CLARE: Yeah. Uh-hmmm. That's right. And what about cannibalistic societies, they murder and they... They, right...don't think it's wrong.
PETER: You got that right.
SUZANNE: But each society has their standards
CLARE: Sure...
PETER: Yes, so evil becomes relative like we're saying, evil becomes relative as a result of that.
CLARE: It does...
PAUL: You don't get punished for it.
MARLON: I remember Therry saying is it just evil...speaking about good and bad, it's like tall and small, it's always relative...
PETER: Yeah, absolutely.
CLARE: And Jay went and asked, I bet. Did you ask?
JAY: I don't have time for this! No, Paul is first off, right. In other words, there's nobody down here on this level who can determine what evil is because it's a thing of man's mind.
PAUL: That's the problem.
JAY: Right. It's a subjective thing. Outside of the man's mind, there is no force evil. There's positive and negative. It is only when man puts a judgment, good and evil on it, that's where evil comes into play. The closest thing you can get and this is where Wendy's right...
PAUL: Free will.
JAY: Like I said, your person cannot...evil is not something that happens because a person does something, but evil exists if a person loves evil. In other words, it's a state....
PETER: That sounds like a circular definition...
CLARE: Intent...
JAY: Well, yeah, it's more not the behavior of doing evil or bad, but when you love evil.
PETER: Well, what's the definition of evil then?
CLARE: Yeah, you're using the word in the definition.
PETER: Yeah, yeah it's a circular definition.
JORGE: That that does harm probably.
WENDY: Well, maybe we won't end up with a definition tonight...
PAUL: Freewill is intimately involved with it, that much is obvious. Without Freewill, you don't have evil anywhere under any set of circumstances. For you to even kill yourself you have to have freewill.
JAY: Right. A pure server of the dark force loves evil not does evil...
PETER: A pure server...
PAUL: I don't know how often you're going to find someone like that.
SUZANNE: Yeah, I don't think ...
PETER: Yeah, but that's not a definition of evil.
WENDY: I've seen guys like that on other levels. It's scary.
JAY: Oh yeah!
SUZANNE: You see them on t.v. like Luther in that show, Smallville. Not Luther in Superman, but Smallville.
CLARE: Oh yeah! Lex Luther.
SUZANNE: Yeah.
PETER: A pure server of the dark force loves evil.
CLARE: But that's a...
SUZANNE: Yeah, I know it's a cartoon character.
PETER: Is that what you said?
JAY: A pure server of the dark force loves evil.
PETER: What is evil? A pure server of the dark force loves evil. What is evil? That's at the root of it. [Chuckle]
JAY: Oh yeah...
CLARE: What's evil?
SUZANNE: I have some examples, but they're not in real life.
JAY: What is Tao Ching?
CLARE: Oh what is Tao Ching! [Laugh] Lex Luther.
PAUL: Why don't you come up with some examples.
CLARE: Yeah, didn't even...
SUZANNE: Peter, I have some examples, Lex Luther in Superman and Mr. Evil in....?
PETER: Mr. Evil in what? The Dr. X or is that the right one?
SUZANNE: No, what was it again, the...the Mike Myers show...
JORGE: Austin Powers.
SUZANNE: Austin Powers, but they're cartoon characters, but it's a good example. Austin Powers, right. But they're cartoon characters.
PAUL: It's all...
SUZANNE: Yeah, but they loved evil. I mean that's a good example, but it's not real because we don't...
CLARE: A server of the dark forces...
PAUL: They typically don't love evil. That's actually typically not what happens. It's like when someone kills somebody else they don't say you know, I hate the Universe, I hate life. I'm going to kill people. They get all pissed off and before you know it, they kill somebody. So that's the only reason why it's not evil because it's not directed against the Universe. It's directed against an individual or it's directed to express themselves or to express their rage and whatever. It's not against the Universe as a whole.
JAY: "A state or condition where there's the absence of all love is evil." That's how he's defining it.
PETER: An absence could happen in a moment...
SUZANNE: It can what?
PETER: An absence can happen in a moment of time.
SUZANNE: And it condemns you for...?
PETER: Whatever, I'm just saying that the...you can't just, you know, take a look at a big chunk of time, it can happen in a moment of time.
SUZANNE: Okay.
JORGE: So the state ...Can you say it one more time?
JAY: The state or condition or the absence of all love is evil.
JORGE: So then a pure server of the dark forces would have to be in that state or condition.
PAUL: I don't think we have to worry about that, but yes, I think we could reasonably say that's gotta be...That's like finding, you know, a pure server of the Light Forces. How can you do that?
[Laughter]
PAUL: Almost everything begins and ends for Man with Man because you can't ...because Man can't go back to the group and where he started out without ...not without...
JAY: ...bringing with him...
CLARE: Bringing us with him...
PAUL: There's a certain level he goes, he's no longer man. And that's the limit. Above that, you can't know anything at all. So all the definitions of evil and all the other things, about Universal laws and everything else, they're all wrong.
PETER: Well, they're right in terms of relativity, as it serves us on a particular level. You go another level and they are all wrong, they're different. Well, let's not call them wrong, but they're different. A different set of laws are operating on the Planet Mars or another galaxy even.
SUZANNE: You're kidding.
PETER: In outer space, the laws are not exactly the same as they are on Earth.
SUZANNE: Oh, okay.
PETER: They're different laws that apply in space that don't apply on Earth.
SUZANNE: But that's part of the Universe though.
PETER: They're a microcosm of the same thing on a smaller level or a smaller scale, you see.
SUZANNE: Hmmm.
PETER: So it's relative, relative, relative. It only...it only has its reference points as to what serves and what does not serve for the illusion you're in at the time. You want to serve destructive forces, you serve destructive forces. If you want to serve them to such a degree that you're absent of or killing all love, then you are evil.
SUZANNE: I don't think...this...I mean...
PAUL: You know, one of the only real reasons to discuss evil is just because it's such a driving thing in the majority of religions...As far as Arkashea's concerned, it's almost irrelevant.
JAY: Hmmm.
CLARE: Yeah.
PETER: But it says it right there, so we had to address it.
SUZANNE: Yeah, okay. So we should be following them, huh? Wow! Okay.
PETER: Well, in my opinion, they're pretty good commandments.
JAY: But you already do it all the time. You just don't put it in those words.
SUZANNE: So that means that...well, anyway...JAY: Do you strive to do evil?
SUZANNE: No.
JAY: You're alright.
PETER: So then you're not striving to be devoid of all love.
SUZANNE: No.
PETER: Well, then that's good.
SUZANNE: Yeah, but look at the rest of the world. This is different.
PAUL: Just so you guys know, this is not unique to Arkashea.
JAY: Yeah, right. Oh, yeah.
PAUL: ...these commandments. They're not unique to Arkashea.
CLARE: You've seen them?
SUZANNE: Let me see the back.
PAUL: Yeah, verbatim almost.
CLARE: Where? Rosacrucians?
PAUL: The Rosacrucians...
SUZANNE: Oh really?
PAUL: And they don't claim that they belong to them either.
WENDY: Is that from Akhenaten?
PAUL: I don't know.
WENDY: I think it is.
SUZANNE: Well, I have a question here...There are several questions I have that I don't understand from this. It says, "I strive not to turn back the waters when they should have flown." What is that?
PAUL: That means in the old days when water was really important and you couldn't just get it from the tap, you didn't try to steal all the water for yourself and not let everyone else have any. 'Cause you have to remember...that's thousands of years old.
PETER: And also, they're physical laws.
JAY: Right.
PETER: You don't...you want to, you don't strive to go against Nature, for instance...
SUZANNE: Oh okay.
JAY: Or even things unfolding. You don't interfere with other people's growth. You don't interfere where things should be moving...
CLARE: Yeah, like ideas. Let things go, right?
SUZANNE: "I strive not to extinguish the flame, when it should've burned." Is that the same concept?
CLARE: Same thing?
PETER: Same concept.
SUZANNE: Okay. "I strive not to repulse any creations in any rightful manifestation."
CLARE: Yeah, that line I wanted to ask about it too...repulse any creations...
PAUL: You don't uhhh...
JAY: You don't want to hate anything...
CLARE: Hate anyone? Reject people...
PAUL: Yeah, you don't reject them...