Arkashean Q&A Session -- 122

TARA: You mean the attitudes we have here go all the way along the line?

THERRY: However far it's necessary for them to go, they go there. Remember there's an odd relationship. Down here we call them attitudes. But it's not the presence nor the absence of the attitude in and of itself that creates the problem. It's the bonding which that attitude makes with the strong emotions.

TARA: Uh-hmmm.

THERRY: For the lack of a comical word, cosmic cement or cosmic flypaper.

MARTHA: Could you have trickle down from a lifetime that was long, long ago or is trickle down usually recent...more recent?

THERRY: No, because time and space is very telescopic. We who are trapped in time on the physical level see time as a corridor which is serial. But from the higher forces, time's not that way. So there's no such thing as 1800 being further away than 3000. And there's no such thing as 1600 being in a different direction than 6100. There is no past, there is no future because that requires a linear concept of time. So in the higher forces realm, it's a fabric. It all joins at specific nodes. Because of that, it is conceivable that when the Planet Earth is a burned out cinder, an empty asteroid floating around a dead sun, people could still descend into the Earth Experience during a time when the Earth was ripe and full.

TARA: How?

THERRY: Because time is telescopic. Here on this level of reality we view time as serial. Yesterday came before today. Today will come before tomorrow.

TERESA: From this reality the way you look at it...

THERRY: Right, but from the higher forces this is not true.

TARA: So that means for all intents and purposes the Earth could be a dead, lifeless thing and here we are living...

THERRY: It is, not could be. It is. Now we're back to simultaneous time, at the same time. You always have to remember that there is a unique pairing between fabric time and linear time in that every piece of time that we call fabric time contains within itself all seeds of linear time in order to have the law fulfilled. Remember that law? "All that exists must be dual in its nature" etc. So because of that unique pairing, you cannot experience fabric time without at the self-same moment experiencing the linear time that is attached to that piece of fabric time.

TARA: So all time is simultaneous. [Chuckle]

THERRY: Correct. It's nice to know you've learned it. [Chuckle]

TERESA: So if you have a watch, no-one else needs one?

THERRY: That was an interesting conversation just the same.

TYRONE: What was the argument? All time is simultaneous or it's not? Or was there another label?

THERRY: No, the words that she was using at the time were confusing her.

TYRONE: The two words were "simultaneous..."?

THERRY: She was saying that if two different time zones are at the same time. And I kept trying to tell her that they can't be at the same time if they're two different time zones. They have to be simultaneous.

TYRONE: Oh, okay.

TERESA: I transcribed that.

TARA: But wait a minute, "Simultaneous the same time!"


JIMMY: Whoever's transcribing this should not have to do this again.


TARA: Get the dictionary!

THERRY: Now you can understand why sticking to the proper definitions in terms of their limitations is important. Because those limitations are what forms your illusions, which in turn create your reality.

TARA: I keep forgetting a lot about the time/space subjects.

THERRY: Yeah, time, space and motion.

TERESA: You know the statement "about paying attention? You're not paying attention or pay attention?" Those statements.

THERRY: There are so many of them.

TERESA: In terms of time when someone says "Pay attention" or "You weren't paying attention," where are you?

THERRY: Well, obviously you were paying attention but you were locked up into what was going on in your mind, not what was going on in somebody else's mind. And when they say, "Pay attention," the perceived implication was "Pay attention to me" not what you're thinking of. Disconnect your own thoughts and follow the thoughts that are going on in my head. I'm the important one here, not you.

TERESA: So if you're alone when you're doing something and someone says something to you, "well obviously you weren't paying attention..."

THERRY: The implication is that you weren't paying attention to the right deed at the right time. Your mind was elsewhere. It's sort of like driving down a freeway, but yet your mind, your thoughts and therefore your inner vision is out in California or swimming on a beach and then first thing you know, you wake up wrapped around a fence post. "Oops! I wasn't paying attention." Quite often in that phase, someone before a judge will cry, "But it just came out of nowhere" I looked both ways." Well, of course, all I could see was my own vision. I wasn't paying attention.

TERESA: Makes for a dangerous drive.

THERRY: Makes for a dangerous world. That gives new meaning to the phrase, complete your sentences. Language is a beautiful thing but because the power is so great, error is proportionate. Anytime you have within your possession such great power, the errors that you will make and you will make them because you're not perfect, they're beauts.

TERESA: Do you remember when I phoned you and I wasn't finishing any sentences and you said to me, can you give me more of the matrix, you know it's just...

THERRY: Uh-hmmm.

TERESA: My belief is that I didn't need to give you anymore 'cause you could understand with what I gave you.

THERRY: Yeah but I don't play those games because that was a way of saying, give me proof.

TERESA: So I do that with everybody then?

THERRY: "If you're worth your salt, you should be able to know." Most of the people "What, what, what, what is that?" With me, go play in the traffic. I've never met anybody at all that was worth getting angry over. I've never met anybody at all that was worth it for me to turn my back on. Life's too short. People are too valuable. The only difference between me and anybody that's out there is time. And far be it for me to throw time away.

TERESA: What if it's the conception on my part that the experience in life is so shared that it is understood and it's not.

THERRY: What if you're wrong?


THERRY: I've told you before, I'm not ready to give up the throne yet, you'll have to wait a few hours!

TERESA: Well, at least we're narrowing it down to a palatable time-span here.

THERRY: [Chuckle]

TERESA: A few could be as little as three.

THERRY: Yeah, but there was a jokester in that statement. The time that I was having reference to was Orthodontiks time.

TERESA: Oh, okay.

TARA: [Chuckle]

THERRY: Did you hear that joke about a guy is talking to God? Perchance they happen to meet during the death process and he's talking to God and he says, "Gee, you're God aint' you?" And he says, "Yup, that's right." "You're the guy that is all powerful and all knowing, has everything!" He says, "Yup, that's right!" He says, "That's right. You live forever, don't you?" "Uh-huh? That's right." He says, "Is it true that a second for you is 350 billion, billion, billion years for me?" "Yup, that's about right, it's close to it, give or take a few billion." "Wow! If you have anything, then you can give anything away, right?" He says, "Yeah, that's true, I can." He says "And I understand that you're all loving, all caring and never deny anything that anybody really wants." "Well that's true, if somebody really, really wants it, I'll let them have it." "Wow! Heavy! Tell you what I've always, always, always wanted - just give me a couple of million dollars." And he says, "Alright, just a second."


TERESA: Well as long as your word is good. I'll wait.

TARA: I'll wait.

THERRY: That's funny. That reminds me of the one that she told us. The lion and the elephant.

TERESA: Yes, that was on a transcript.

THERRY: To me, that was one was beautiful.

TERESA: He read that one too.

THERRY: The interweaving concept is just beautiful.

TARA: It's so true. How many people do you know like that? That's life right there.

TERESA: We were talking about the anxiety and uhh...

THERRY: Which one? There's about a billion of them.

TERESA: Anxiety said that patience.


TERESA: And I said that the anxiety is what drives me. Or at least in common language is what I've come to understand that drives me, for having nothing better to think of it than that, I'd go with that.

THERRY: But you have to bear in mind that there's some inherent flaws. First you, start out with corrupted language which you yourself have corrupted, then you make the all-powerful, all unforgivable sin of assuming. Did you ever hear the riddle of "assume"?

TERESA: You make an ass out of me and you?

THERRY: Yeah. And I don't know about you but I'm already made, so you can't make me. So you shouldn't assume.

TERESA: Well along the journey, do you work on a I'm working on a hunch.

THERRY: I have a different word. Working on intolerance. Just because your mind may work faster than someone else doesn't give you the right to be intolerant to their slowness, because if you continue, Karma will bring you back as a mongoloid. I'd say that that's a pretty good retribution, wouldn't you?

TERESA: Uh-hmm. I'm a little know it all about it too.


TERESA: I consider that you can tell! I've noticed that I've been looking at bicycle helmets lately.

THERRY: The weave of creation is so exact that there's no room for accidents. There's no such thing for accidents.

TERESA: So that was me storming the gates?

THERRY: Or trying to.

TERESA: Trying to and not being very successful. I mean that's pretty...

THERRY: That's the pattern. Nobody can ever storm the gates. They can only try and get a headache in the process or something else 'cause they're going to hit something when they fall.

TERESA: Why repeat the same thing again and again and again?

THERRY: There is a possibility to answer that with just one word, fun?


THERRY: Hey? Did you ever go to a circus? Did you ever go on the rides and scream your damn head off and say, "Hey that was fun! Let's go back on again!" Or you go to a tent where the barkers are and you know you're being cheated, but you go for it anyway. What the hell, it's fun! Does that answer your question?

TERESA: I find that so hard to believe with my sense of value of things.

THERRY: Yeah, but you do it just the same!

TERESA: Yeah but...

THERRY: But! You think the laws are going to change? I keep telling you! I'm not ready to get off my throne!

TERESA: It's incongruous to my value system!

THERRY: Yeah reality often is.


TERESA: That's why I'm in a rush for that jaguar. I want a bigger thrill.

THERRY: Yeah, that way you can wait around a couple of thousand years.

TERESA: It's fun, that's it, it's fun.


THERRY: That's it. That's it in a nutshell. The law is, "When the pain gets big enough, you'll change."

TERESA: And he gets angry because I'm having so much fun?

THERRY: Well perhaps he doesn't see it as funny.

TYRONE: Definitely not.

THERRY: Consequently you don't either.

TERESA: He ruins it.

THERRY: Sure it's fun to blame somebody.


TERESA: Stay out of my game! Ay!

THERRY: Well, you don't live in a vacuum you know.

TERESA: By now, shouldn't he believe I'm invincible?

THERRY: You know there are actually people who will interfere in people's games because they don't like the idea of you forcing them to have the same fun you're having?

TERESA: And to pay for it too!

THERRY: Right!


THERRY: Can you imagine that?

TERESA: Kinda. Now that you explain it. I couldn't...I wasn't quite sure the anger part in those terms. Sure.

THERRY: Oh the webs we weave, our pleasure to deceive!

TERESA: I know it won't smell. Hey, who let that skunk in!

THERRY: [Chuckle]

TERESA: Is pomposity a defense?

THERRY: Yeah. Heaven forbid that we may not be as great as we want to be, so we put on a face. Sometimes we're in such a hurry to paint the mask that we don't even see the flaws.

TERESA: So a defense against seeing the flaws or a defense against the big outdoors?

THERRY: Not the outdoors itself, those who reside there. 'Cause remember, the premise is we don't necessarily like the idea of seeing that we're not as great as we think we are. So what better way to hide it than through a mask.

TERESA: So what's the waxing and waning between absolute sense of impotence and minusculeness and pomposity and grandioseness?

THERRY: Games.

TERESA: ...and excessive ego?

THERRY: Games. Look at it as the spice of life.

TERESA: I mean there's a ...?

THERRY: Of course. You can't stay inside a bucket of shit forever; you've got to come up for air sometimes. And every time you come up for air, you get a touch of truth. So anybody who one second finds them King of the Universe, when they come up for air, they've got to see, yeah, Universe of Ants.

TARA: Universe of what?

THERRY: In other words, if they feel they're big, they'll get a whiff of themselves and suddenly they're small. But they can't take that. So they, "Alright, lunch break is over. Everybody on their heads."

TERESA: [Chuckle] There's a middle , I take it.


TERESA: I hear that bandied about.

THERRY: Yes, there is a middle. It's when you begin taking off the mask and be satisfied with being who you really are, learning that you don't need a mask. Those who really care for you, will care for you the way you really are. They don't give a damn about that mask. And those to whom the mask is important are not worth keeping anyway.

TERESA: I think that it has to do with me, not them.

THERRY: Always.

TERESA: ...then...

THERRY: In all things, in all conditions in every way.

TERESA: I don't think I'm invested enough in others to care that much. It's between me and me.

THERRY: An individual is never vested enough to care about somebody else. They're too busy caring about themselves.

TERESA: Right.

THERRY: But that's not just you. It's everybody.

TERESA: So I'm protecting me from me?

THERRY: No, you're protecting you from what you think they see. Did you ever play the game...psychology has a little game where you make a certain number of windows and one of them is the window of what you see in the world and another window is what the world sees of you and hence what you think you see of the world or what you think you see about yourself etc. and then you begin the process of having a rend between each window and see what would happen logically. That's what you're doing. Except that you never got beyond the point "No, you've got to see me perfect, otherwise I'm going to get mad, I'm going to pout." Does that make sense?

TERESA: Uh-hmm. There's always a seesawing going on as I said and I said, yeah, there's truth to that. I need to be seen in a certain way. But you know that's folly.

THERRY: No, it's not folly.

TERESA: It's not so.

THERRY: No, it's not folly. Remember, all things that exists, exists within levels and therefore has limits and borders. What is valid on one level would seemingly be invalid on another level. But it doesn't change the fact that within its respective level, it is valid.

TERESA: Say that one more time.

THERRY: Okay, everything which exists, exists within levels.


THERRY: And therefore each level respectively is unique unto itself, has its own subset of laws, its own subset of needs, okay. Once it crosses a border unto another level or another happenstance, it finds itself on the borders of another land, another care, another need, which also has its own subset. Now in this new foreign land, it is no longer valid. But if it returns back to its own country, it remains valid. Quite often, when we cross over to a new level to a new care, we forget to change to adapt to the levels and the needs of this new level. We try to bring what we're already familiar with with us, but of course it doesn't work. But that's beside the point. So you hire a whole cacophony of idiots, all busy painting masks that you can wear in order to protect yourself and the only one that sees the mask is you, because everybody else that's on the new level sees you wearing the mask! and stands there and wonders, "What the hell is she wearing the mask for? It ain't Halloween!" While you safely behind the mask thinks that all they see is the mask. They don't see the mask, they see you wearing the mask.

TERESA: I know that to be true.

THERRY: Uh-hmmm.

TERESA: But the mask removes...

THERRY: So, there's nothing wrong with wearing the mask, you have that right.


THERRY: Come a time, along with various people you will suddenly realize, "Well, with this schmuck I don't have to wear a mask. You don't mean much to me anyway." And then suddenly you'll discover that there's a new phenomenon when you're not wearing a mask and you won't know what the hell it is. So things will be funny and then one day it will strike you, like you hit your head on a low ceiling, "It's nice not wearing a mask." So you'll begin taking it off with more situations. And if you ain't careful, damn, you might wake up and find yourself happy.

TERESA: There's only one person I ever do that to.

THERRY: That's not true either, but that's okay. I won't fight it.

TERESA: I do it with more than him, you say?

THERRY: Uh-hmmm. You do it with varying degrees with very new people.

TERESA: Oh yeah.

THERRY: So therefore your statement was not valid.

TERESA: What was my statement?

THERRY: Your statement is, "He is the only one with whom you are ever caught without a mask." You may not have used those exact words, but that was the translation of your words. And that just was not true. You take your mask off to other people as well, in different degrees.

TERESA: But that's the key word "different degrees."

THERRY: It doesn't change the fact that you don't have your mask on. 'Cause even if you go [motion of taking off/on the mask] you still for a moment didn't have your mask on, hence that makes your statement not valid. And if you go, "I'm hiding." Oh okay. You have that right. The stage director doesn't care what roles you play. He even lets you write your own script.

TERESA: And that's not necessarily detrimental to the journey?

THERRY: Of course not. The journey doesn't give a damn. It doesn't matter how many sidetracks you take. Hey, you've only got one way to go and that's back. It's just a matter of how much dust you want to gather anyway. You're going to come back anyway. So why should we care? Give you as much rope as you want. You're going to come back anyway, so what difference does it make. Remember the original? You came on the bus and there are no stragglers.

TERESA: The bus again. I'll never look at a Greyhound the same way again.

THERRY: [Chuckle] No, this is a yellow bus!

TERESA: [Chuckle] Oh thanks!

THERRY: Wouldn't you know it, sometimes they get flat tires and "Everybody out!"

TERESA: So that's what happened? I was in the bushes peeing while everybody else got back on.


TERESA: I didn't know it was going to be a millennium's wait.

THERRY: There's a lot of jokes about that. Another one is, the bus got a flat tire and as a reward for everybody being so kind, the bus driver decides to pass out favors. Came my turn, he was passing out brains, I thought he was meant paints and I said, "No thanks, I don't want any." [Chuckle] Another one that's just as comical is...Same story except the ending is different. He was passing out noses and I thought he said roses and I said, "Give me a great, big red one!"


THERRY: Language can be so funny.

TERESA: I'm going to be walking along and say, "Yeah, give me a bigger one!"

THERRY: That everlasting bus driver!