Arkashean Q&A Session -- 133

THERRY: It doesn't matter. That's still a conversion of English. When you make a statement, "I am where I'm supposed to be," there is still a built-in implication that there are forces that are beyond your control that put you there. It doesn't matter if this is what you have in mind. The language itself implies this.

ANNE: Okay.

THERRY: That's where a lot of conversion comes in when people don't realize. Whereas if you choose words differently, you can avoid and it accentuates the responsibility to yourself.

ANNE: I would much prefer to believe that I chose to be where I am than someone thrust me here by accident and I'm just, you know...

THERRY: I hear that...Sure, but we're not always that pure in our communications.

ANNE: Okay.

THERRY: Nobody's perfect. There's going to be conversions simply because we haven't trained ourselves to be religious in our communications. We use words, we bandy them about like they're going out of style. We don't pay attention to the fine points, of the limitations that we use. Consequently, you lie to yourself.

ANNE: So by bastardizing a language I could...I could completely confuse myself?

THERRY: Bingo! You know, if you say, "My choices have forced me to be where I am" as opposed to, "I am where I'm supposed to be," the mind is led to two different thinking patterns. Language by definition is supposed to be used to limit not to generalize and broaden.

ANNE: Not to generalize...?

THERRY: To make bigger, make wider. If you use your language in a limiting factor, to limit, then you prevent your mind on going in all kinds of unnecessary treks and it's direct to the point. "I made my choices and now I'm stuck with what's here." I mean, there's no hint there of somebody else's fault, it's totally, "I'm the culprit, I made my choices." So you can't even think about, "I'm trapped" because the term, "I'm trapped" again implies forces beyond my control. Instead if you use the phrase, "I trapped myself," well, that's a totally different direction for the mind.

Remember, "Illusion is the driving force for reality. Within that reality it is level of observation that creates the phenomenon." That means the prima basis of what you're going to experience begins with how you use language. 'Cause remember, the law specifically states, language gets its power, not because it is the tool that is used to communicate to others. That is important in the experience of Earth, but that's not the power of language. The power of language comes because it is the only tool, I repeat, the only tool that you have to communicate to yourself. And if you want to bastardize your language then you know you are automatically lying to yourself. You're trying to look through a purposefully unclear glass. You add distortions and based on those distortions, you're going to misinterpret what you see. That's what conversion is all about. Does that make sense to you?

ANNE: Uh-hmmmm.

THERRY: Now when someone comes up to me and asks me a question, it is not my purpose to first start sorting out the games that they play. I don't care what games they play. You ask a question, you get the response to the question based on the moment. The amount of conversions that's going on in your area, that's the way it goes...I have a habit of using language very specifically and I don't pay no attention to how you use yours. 'Cause that's not my job. I'm not God. I should not sit in judgment on how each individual decides to use their language. Whatever games they want to play is there for whatever purpose. I don't judge them on those either. I don't look at things in terms of right or wrong. I simply see things as, they're either there or they're not.

ANNE: So when I say to you, that I use my language and I know what I mean but you don't understand it, I'm fooling...

THERRY: I never believe what you're saying.

ANNE: I'm fooling myself?

THERRY: Well, you don't think so.

ANNE: No, I'm asking.

THERRY: Well see, you're asking me to tell you the degree to which you are accurate. Well, if that's your question, I'll say it depends on the moment, because sometimes you're very accurate and you know exactly what you want. Other times it's so confusing its difficult to know what you're thinking. It depends on the moment and it depends on the subject matter and it depends on how much at ease you are with the subject that you're inquiring, depends on the level of your prejudices at the time and who you're speaking with. And it's not just you, it's everybody. So I don't pay attention to that. I just go directly into the mind. And I reflect all that. I throw the emotions and all this other crap away. Then I apply the words that I come with based on the communication of language. Then whatever I get, that's what you get. If the question is based on a misinterpretation or some other prejudices that you have, I don't care about that. You ask the questions, you get the answer. If it serves you, fine, if it doesn't? I'm sorry, try again.

ANNE: Does tenacity have anything to do with it?

THERRY: Tenacity? Tenacity is a tool that is used by many people to get their point across. So tenacity in any given situation is neither good nor bad. It's simply an added force so that they don't forget. It serves the memory in most cases. Tenacity doesn't become a favored tool until they've already chosen that track. Such as I'm going to be a programmer and now tenacity comes in to maintain that they're going to be a programmer. That make sense to you? Tenacity is not an across the board thing. It's specific.

ANNE: You said it said it was in the maintenance of something and I thought it was in the pursuit of something.

THERRY: It can be both but primarily it's in the maintenance of something. It doesn't become a pattern until you use it...Well, I just got another message here. There's a confusion in the definition of maintenance and pursuit. I think the two words are interchangeable. If you maintain a thought and you're also pursuing that subject, then they're interchangeable. If you want to separate them so's they're not interchangeable, then tenacity serves such that you can continue at least long enough so that you can end the sentence. You've probably heard or come in contact with people that have difficulty finishing a thought. They'll keep jumping around so's that a sentence is not necessarily finished because their thoughts go faster than their mouths. Well, that's where tenacity is not being served properly. The other avenue of it is tenacity is when you're in pursuit of a specific goal so that you keep plugging your way from that one goal. You may do many other things, but they're all in service of that one goal. So those are the two methods that tenacity uses, assuming of course that they're not interchangeable with maintenance. That sufficient? If not, I'll try again.

ANNE: No, I think I understand. I need to be tenacious to get what I want and still not get it. But that's my responsibility to be tenacious.

THERRY: Perhaps it might behoove you to first seek to find out if what you want is permissible under the conditions that you're in.

ANNE: Then that's the question.

THERRY: I would never seek to answer those questions because that would have the result of telling you how to live your life. It would rob you of the responsibility and the pain or pleasure of achievement. I would never dream of answering those questions. I refuse to be a crystal ball for people. All I can give you is patterns and laws. If something is acceptable or not acceptable or permissible, you have to find that out for yourself. Nonetheless, my suggestion is seek to find out, if what you want is permissible. That might save you a lot of heartache. It'll certainly save you a lot of time. And in acquiring an answer, you might also find out the best way to get it.

ANNE: Permissible by law or just the going rate of what I'm in?

THERRY: Aren't they one and the same?

ANNE: Uh-uh.

THERRY: Seemingly the going rate of what you're in is controlled by law, is it not?

ANNE: I can jump out of what I'm...

THERRY: No you can't!

ANNE: Huh?

THERRY: Once you've made a choice, you're stuck with the limits of that choice. And once you play a game, it is the game that you chose to play that determines when and how you can get out of it. The law states that you can use your Free Will to choose a game but once the game is chosen, you must now abide by the rules of that game - your Free Will is gone. So mayhaps it might be productive to be careful of the games that you choose to play, because once you choose them, you're not free anymore.

ANNE: You mean it can be as frivolous as pissing away a really nice career?

THERRY: Yup! Now that's a pattern. You can choose your Free Will to choose a game. Once chosen, you no longer have any Free Will. The laws of the game is in total Predestiny and the only Free Will you have left is the Free Will that the nature of the chosen game gives you.

ANNE: For me to stay in that chosen game I have to go higher with it?

THERRY: If it's permissible.

ANNE: If I go higher with it...

THERRY: See, the problem is, once you're in a game, it's very difficult to know where the limits and the borders are. Games by definition are usually designed to keep you in that. And there are very few exits.

ANNE: Very few ...?

THERRY: Exits. There are very few points in the game that allow you to leave and if you allow one to go by, you can't go back, you have to wait until the next time it comes around.

ANNE: What if it's not a game, what if it's the way I serve?

THERRY: That too is a game. The outlook on life is also a game. Obviously there is a very rigid hierarchy of games, where one impacts upon the other and totally modifies it or negates it. But the effect of both games still conforms and creates reality. It doesn't matter if one game is negated by the other. Both games go into the creation of reality. If you have a lot of games that are invisible that way, reality's a little difficult to handle.

ANNE: Well, a little?

THERRY: [Chuckle] Well, I don't want to be pessimistic.


ANNE: That's my job!

THERRY: [Chuckle] Chances are, if an individual is going through emotional pain of any kind, it usually can be traceable to one thing and one thing only. They're trying to steal.

ANNE: I wouldn't say it's pain, it's boredom and I'm not sure I know what that is.

THERRY: I don't know about you, but I would say that that's a form of pain. There are lots of forms of pain.

ANNE: I just don't feel challenged.

THERRY: Well that's your problem.

ANNE: Yeah.

THERRY: And that's because you choose not to be. An individual who feels bored, basically is taking too much of a Godlike attitude in life. The premise is, there is nothing on this planet that is worth my attention. Well hey, I got news for you, God hasn't gotten off his throne yet, so you're going to wait awhile.

ANNE: Approximately how long?

THERRY: [Chuckle]

ANNE: [Chuckle] We talking 5, 10 minutes? What?

THERRY: At least you'll have to wait until the bus leaves.

ANNE: That frigging bus again! [Chuckle]

THERRY: There are an unbelievable number of things in this Planet that you don't know yet. So if you're bored, hey, get off your ass and choose something you don't know and learn it.

ANNE: Well-l-l-l, I agree!

THERRY: Therefore it's a game you choose to play, isn't it?

ANNE: That's why I'm here.

THERRY: If you don't want to get bored, it's awfully easy to change an attitude because it's only an attitude that is stopping you.

ANNE: That's why I'm here!

THERRY: Well., why? So I can yell at you? Okay.

ANNE: No, no, no, no, no! I do a good job at that.

THERRY: Yeah, but it's not fun if you do it to yourself.

ANNE: Oh yes it is!


ANNE: The hell I say!! [Chuckle] In fact, if I'm allowed to and you're not, it doesn't feel good at all.

THERRY: I can accept that you think that. But if I yell at you, you can now say, "Duck you!" But if you do yell at you, you can't run away from it. So it's a helluva lot better if you let me yell at you and you stop yelling because you're in terrible need of a friend and the friend that you're trying to look for is you.

ANNE: Correct.

THERRY: You ain't going to find it by being bored. You realize of course that you're working with a Continuum of Prejudices? Okay. So long as you know. The Great Force has given each the right to destroy themselves in any way they choose.

CLARE: [Chuckle]

ANNE: I'm pretty darn good, eh? [Chuckle]

THERRY: No, we all are! It comes with the territory.

ANNE: You mean no special talents? Just your average...

THERRY: No, that's one of the good things about Planet Earth, you don't need a special brain to be stupid.

ANNE: And here I thought I was working hard at it!

THERRY: Yeah I guess we can all shine pretty bright that way. I guess if there is ever such a thing as a guarantee, which I doubt but if there were, I'd say that the number one guarantee is, believe me, we're not perfect. None of us are. So we're pretty bright in being stupid and I use the word "stupid" very specifically. Because usually we know exactly what we're doing. We know how to change and we know that we need to change but we're not ready yet. The level of pain hasn't risen sufficiently. To me that's being stupid.

ANNE: A change took place and I wasn't aware of how that happened.

THERRY: Well, how can you be when you're not aware of your own language? Remember it is nice and dandy to sit here and say, "I'm independent, I'm have my own thoughts!" Well, how could you possibly have your own thoughts if you don't control your own language? If you change your definition to your words to suit your own purpose at any given time, how can you say you have? You have it. You can't have your own thoughts, if you don't have a true and unbiased definition of your words. You cheat yourself. If there's going to be any deceptions of any kind, the very first place you'll find it is in the language. Then it'll come in the thoughts, then it'll come into reality and your prejudices and your biases. That's the route it always, always takes. The only route it knows. Either case, it doesn't matter what it is you talk about, what you think about, what you fight about, the beginning of absolutely everything starts in your language and how you use it.

ANNE: Therapeutically we say, "say I" so you mean yourself, so you can own it.

THERRY: Well that's one way, but you don't have to necessarily to keep saying "I, you end up with "I" problems. You can ask a question in a generic form, providing your language is correct, 'cause remember the biggest problem in a screwed up language is not the sending part. Sending is very easy, it doesn't matter how screwed up it is. The receiver has the responsibility of interpreting. That can be disastrous, but that's not where the real important part comes in, the real important part of language is in the receiving 'cause that's what you're going to build your reality with.

ANNE: What I say and how I receive is that how I build my reality?


ANNE: Because I get permission or access or not?

THERRY: You got it! You haven't gotten away or as far away from your parents as you think you have. Why else would you ask the permission?

ANNE: In a bureaucracy?

THERRY: Why not? Permission is permission. Who would you ask permission from?

ANNE: A superior...

THERRY: You either have autonomy or you don't.

ANNE: In a bureaucracy I don't.

THERRY: The hell you don't!

ANNE: If I want to stay in that bureaucracy I'd better...

THERRY: The hell you don't.

ANNE: Why not? If I'm operating in a bureaucracy I have to go to the people who see me and get permission to do something.

THERRY: Not on the language level you don't. You don't need their permission to corrupt your language. You only need permission in a bureaucracy to commit behavior that is governed or otherwise modified by that organization. But that's not where it comes. By that time, the corruption has already taken place. The crime has already been committed. You're looking under the wrong street light again. One of the reasons why I think that you're bored - perhaps you have an idea that you're not making an influence in the world. So why bother be here? That's very far from the truth. You don't live in a vacuum. You have a very, very high impact on a lot more people than you think you do. That make sense to you?

ANNE: Yeah! And that's the next step that I'm dealing with.

THERRY: There's an easy answer. Very easy. It's a cruel one but it's the only one that's possible. You must take the attitude, to absolutely everybody, you must say, "Duck you! You live your life! Let me live mine! Let me develop according to what I want. You develop according to what you want and let's just share. I didn't come down here to lead you and I didn't come down here to follow you. Let's walk side by side and just simply enjoy one another." Whatever difference is there, who cares? That leaves you totally free to pursue all the things that you don't already know and it leaves them totally free to do whatever they want. Under such a category there can be no boredom. There can be nothing but value and beauty 'cause each grows in their own time. When a person cares too much they're trapped such that they can do nothing, but if they can't do nothing, it's awfully easy to be bored. The first step of gaining a friend is keeping them free and that means each of us must mind their own business. And that gives each of us freedom in turn. And once we're free, the possibilities are endless. There's no such thing as boredom. Basic laws.

ANNE: Ba-ba-bump! Alright, I'll let you have the last word! [Giggle]




ANNE: Thank you.

CLARE: Can I go back to something that you were saying at the very beginning of the tape? When you were talking about the Devil's Advocate type of work?

THERRY: Yeah, there are two ways of gaining information, okay? The Devil's Advocate method of learning which is based on war and what people call normal questions and answers - sharing. So I guess it's Devil's Advocate and sharing.

CLARE: Well it seems that I fall more into the Devil's Advocate type of classification, I guess. But you're...if I understood right it sounded like you were saying the Devil's Advocate approach of being...of having the skepticism and cynicism and kind of type of attitude where we're trying to point a finger to someone else, was it something like that?

THERRY: It's implied in the method.

CLARE: Does that mean I need to be sure that...

THERRY: The Devil's Advocate method is one of war, confrontative. It's premise is, "Who the duck are you? Prove it!" The premise is, "I'm right, I already know. You're not telling me something that is new to me. Prove it!" Whereas the sharing method, there is no right, there is no wrong, there is simply an exchange of data.

CLARE: You mean no one has to be right or wrong?

THERRY: Correct, correct. In the Devil's Advocate, there's got to be a right, there's got to be a wrong.

CLARE: But wanting to be sure...

THERRY: Let's end the session for now. We'll talk more later.