Arkashean Q&A Session -- 139
CORALINE: Are we native to this Planet?
THERRY: No, we are not native to this Planet.
TROY: What makes you think we're native?
CORALINE: So we were seeded and we were from a different Dimension?
THERRY: No, we're native to this Dimension because we're carbon-based but we're not native to the Planet Earth.
TROY: But how do we really know that this is a carbon-based Universe and we're just not native?
THERRY: Because rocks do not colonize,
TROY: Okay. [Chuckle]
THERRY: And other Planets such as the Moon, the matter that creates the physical, does not colonize.
TROY: Yeah that was a stupid question.
THERRY: I agree.
CORALINE: Well, could you get into a spaceship, travel so fast and ...in this physical Universe and get to another Dimension?
CORALINE: What would that be like when you broke into a new Dimension, you're still on the physical, right?
THERRY: But you're not on this physical, you're in a new Dimension and who knows what set of laws is in effect there.
CORALINE: See, I thought you traveled to different Dimensions by...I guess there are any number of ways to travel to other Dimensions.
THERRY: And obviously each various Dimension has its own subset of laws.
CORALINE: So if you are in a dream state and you find yourself able to walk through what appears to be solid, is that a different level or is that a different Dimension?
THERRY: Okay because you mentioned the words, "dream state" it is possible that you are simply in your Laboratory, in which case you would still be...
CORALINE: On the same Dimension but a different level.
CORALINE: Yet you could have left your body and traveled to a different Dimension. That's...you could have in fact have that experience?
THERRY: It's a possibility but very unlikely because normally if you're going into Alter-Realities, they all remain within the same Dimension. You normally don't leave this Dimension until after you have mastered this Dimension and there is no Man who has ever come close to that.
TROY: So you're referring to all levels, 144 or whatever?
THERRY: Yeah. This is not to say the technology has not grown to allow individuals to go from one Dimension to another.
CORALINE: It has?
THERRY: Sure it has.
CORALINE: How so?
THERRY: Well, it may come as a shock to you...
CORALINE: What would be...
THERRY: But we're not the smartest people in Creation.
CORALINE: Oh I though...Well, I knew that!
CORALINE: I thought you meant like on this...I guess I was confused. I thought you meant on this Planet they knew how to go ...
THERRY: Perhaps you've got blinders on? Perhaps you change what it is I say to fit what you have in your mind?
CORALINE: Yeah, well...!
WARREN: Would it be possible for someone to temporarily fall into another Dimension while...
THERRY: You can't accidentally cross a barrier.
WARREN: Okay. Could it happen even without you mastering all the levels because of some Karma or some external force?
THERRY: That would be against the law. The only way you could accidentally or specifically go into another Dimension in order to equalize Karma would be if you had Karma to equalize in that other Dimension. And if that were the case, how would you have gotten there to begin with? Remember the law, "Each unto his own kind." "What is incurred in the Flesh, must be pain in the flesh."
TROY: So I must've mastered all other Dimensions some time just like here?
THERRY: Don't flatter yourself! You made it to this Dimension, remember?
TROY: I guess I'm wrong!
THERRY: Let's keep this on a serious note!
CORALINE: So what would be the definition of Dimension then?
THERRY: I just gave it to you.
CORALINE: An area of the Garden that has the same chemical base?
THERRY: This particular Dimension happens to be carbon-based. One hundred per cent (100%) of everything that is native to this Dimension is carbon-based.
TROY: Even a...okay...
THERRY: Even water is carbon-based!
TROY: I must rephrase it. I want to bring it up to an energy level. I mean that's carbon-based, an energy form? I mean it's really not that...
WARREN: Energy form.
TROY: I mean, can we...are we including energy Life Forms, pure energy?
THERRY: Yeah they're carbon-based too...
THERRY:...except that we wouldn't recognize it as such because ...
CORALINE: And is the Death...
THERRY: Plus, you brought something else into it that none of us have spoken about yet.
TROY: What's that?
THERRY: Because as you rise higher in the Continuum of Creation...
TROY: Things overlap?
THERRY: Yeah, such that a certain level of Creation may have its influence over more than one Dimension. Energy would be that thing. It has its influence over about seven different Dimensions so's that from its level, that Dimension would equal let's say, seven (7) of our physical levels. But that's a new concept which has no place here for now.
CORALINE: There are one hundred and forty four (144) levels to the Earth Experience?
CORALINE: And are there a number of...are there countless Dimensions?
THERRY: To the Earth Experience?
CORALINE: Not to the Earth Experience but...I don't know how to what...
THERRY: The answer in both cases is, "Yes."
CORALINE: There are countless Dimensions to the Earth Experience and countless Dimensions to other forms of experience.
THERRY: Yes. Remember Creation exists in all veins. That's why it's called a Fabric. Remember your spider web? We look at it and we see all of the various threads just on one plane. Well, imagine if you will, that same spider web who's threads on one plane are so dense that it looks absolutely solid 'cause there're so many threads. Then imagine if you will that that plane spins so's that what exists on one plane, also exists on every possible plane, 360 degrees in a spherical way such that you have a solid thing in your hand. That's the fabric-like nature of Creation. Creation exists on every conceivable vein of Creation and level and whatever. And that is what created the Physical of the solid Universe as we know it. The very seed of Creation is what governs it all. And the seed of it all is, the Prime, the Secondary and the Triune Laws of Creation. The first being, "That which exists in the Chi shall be Dual in its nature, Triune in its effects." Duality, which states, "The Creation of the One is in itself the implication of the Creation of the other." Triunity, there will be Conductivity, Receptivity and Frequency. Just those three is all that is used to combine and recombine to make the solidness of Recursive Dialusion. Those three are the...for lack of a better word, the RNA and the DNA of the Universe, of Creation itself, not strictly with this Dimension. From Unity came Duality, from Duality came Triunity and thus Diversity came into being from sameness. And along each thread of Creation, it has its own subset of law which governs it. I guess that makes everything clear as mud, right?
REED: As clear as mud in a crystal goblet.
CORALINE: Would the definition of Level be a different point along the Continuum of Awareness?
THERRY: That's one good definition.
CORALINE: What's another?
THERRY: A different law or within the influence of a different law.
CORALINE: When you think along those terms, along those lines, things like running the country becomes very unimportant.
CORALINE: This is continuing on...talking about certain laws and how they apply them in my everyday life.
CORALINE: And this law, in communication's equation, what goes on in your mind is unimportant, it's what goes on in the other person's mind is what counts. Uhm now, first of all, if you're interacting with somebody, how are you going to know what's going in the person's mind? You can only guess, can't you?
THERRY: That's true. That's not the point of observation from which you should take. The law is designed to guide you in when you are responding to someone. It guides you in terms of which words to choose and which intonations to use. For instance, if somebody asks you the question, "Is there going to be a tomorrow?" Well, if your intonations are inappropriate for the situation, then it's bad communication. You're paying closer attention to what's going on in your own head instead of the other person's head. The other person could be very, very, very worried that the bomb's going to drop and he may be very frightened. So he may turn around and ask, "Is there going to be a tomorrow?" Well, obviously, if you turn around and say, "Don't be so ducking silly!" [in aggressive voice] Well, you're paying attention to what's going on in your head, not theirs.
CORALINE: So you are able to pick up their illusion to a certain degree by hearing their emotions in effect.
THERRY: Right because remember, communication is a lot more than just talking. And when you speak to someone or when you address a concern, you have to be aware to do so on more than one level at one time. Not only must you be aware on the verbal level; you must be aware of the emotional level and the situational level. So it's a pretty involved thing. Also, if you're going to use a set of words and a set of phraseologies that's totally beyond the individual's capacity to understanding, again you're talking to yourself, you're not talking to them.
CORALINE: It's like whenever I talk to Guy,
CORALINE: My language...my verbal language has to immediately become very uhh...well, it's limited and it's very clear because if I use any kind of words that are the slightest bit advanced, I guess, in their meaning...That doesn't make sense does it?
THERRY: Yeah it does.
CORALINE: Well, he won't understand what the word means and communication ceases to exist.
THERRY: If you simply rattle off uhh using your expensive vocabulary or your own theatre or whatever off because it's an opportunity to show off, what the hell good is that if you leave the individual behind or leave them confused!
CORALINE: It's tied in with the necessity of the role, isn't it?
CORALINE: I mean they seem to almost be...there can't be one without the other.
THERRY: Exactly! You have to learn to serve the situation and as you said or as you recognized, it's very intricately tied into accepting the needs of the role within a given situation. You have to address the other individual's concerns, not yours.
CORALINE: How can you be sure...But what I'm thinking of is, the different times I've come to you and said, "So and so said this to me and they must've meant "blah, blah, blah." And you said, "No, they didn't really mean that. They meant...they didn't phrase it properly."
THERRY: I've never said that! I've always said, perhaps "They could've meant this or they could've meant that." It doesn't necessarily mean that they meant this. I wouldn't presume to tell you what is in somebody else's head. All I would do is give you an ultimate possibility and let you decide on which game you want to play.
CORALINE: Well, I figured that if...I've picked up that up from other people and I...and yeah, it could be just I chose to play, it doesn't matter what they said or they could've said something that seemed very insulting, say and it wasn't...from their point of view it wasn't insulting at all, yet the way they chose to phrase it, it came off insulting to me. How would I know not to do that to others?
THERRY: But you have to bear in mind that just because you are being taught the proper rules of communication according to this law, that doesn't mean that everybody else is going to do the same. You have to bear in mind that everybody, doesn't matter who they are, are serving the needs of their own particular situation and they have certain reference points when they communicate. Those reference points may not necessarily equate to yours.
THERRY: And hence they may just make the phrase, "It's just a dumb blond excuse." Well, that doesn't mean they're calling you a dumb blond, but also at the same moment, it doesn't mean that there's something there to stop you from playing the dumb blonde game. I mean, just because someone says something that may not exactly seem right to you, all that is, it's an excuse for you to play a war game.
CORALINE: Right. Because we always go to war with ourselves.
THERRY: Exactly. That's why that law is so important. Because you got to remember, it is your task in communications to code and decode according to the needs of the individual or the group of individuals that you're speaking to within a relative situation. It is their task to code and decode according to your needs within the relative situation but that doesn't mean that always occurs. For you to demand that such a thing should occur I think is another avenue or another excuse to play a different game which will have its own little set of wars.
CORALINE: For instance, when I go down to that party on Thursdays, if I start ranting on about how George Bush horrible is, say or the destruction of the environment or nuclear warheads, I'm going to find myself kicked out real fast or I will just...I will not have communicated properly at all when it comes to trying to know what's going on in these other people's minds.
CORALINE: 'Cause already I know what goes on in their minds is not what I've just said.
CORALINE: They're going to be having an entirely different illusion.
THERRY: Exactly. I mean, one of the responsibilities of this particular law that we're speaking about is, you don't go up to a KKK member and start speaking to them about how they should begin to love black men or niggers or whatever derogatory term that they use. That's just inappropriate action. And it doesn't matter how good your intent is, you never call a witch a witch, even though you know they are one! - Not and expect open arms anyway! So that indicates how very much it is tied to the acceptance of the role in any given situation.
CORALINE: Yeah. Right 'cause it's dealing on so many levels!
CORALINE: Alright. Uhm, "Friendship is but a stage where both will start the process of conversion." You know, when I first heard that, I thought, "Boy, that's pretty negative!" But it's not necessarily 'cause there's a whole Continuum to compare with, right?
CORALINE: Uhm, I don't remember everything you said. I was listening to a tape when I heard that and I wrote it down. Uhm, I can't remember if you said that there are times when people can have a friendship and not try to convert.
CORALINE: There are? Yet, wouldn't that go against this law?
CORALINE: But then...
THERRY: Just because you have the ability to, doesn't demand that you must.
CORALINE: But if it says, "is but a stage."
CORALINE: Why doesn't it say, "is sometimes a stage" or "is usually?"
THERRY: They both mean the same.
CORALINE: "Is but?" It sounds like, "Is but a stage." That's all there is.
THERRY: It's all a stage. Exactly. There's no codicils to that. It simply is, it is a point along a Continuum of Friendship. It's neither positive nor negative, it simply is! And because it is within that stage, that of itself, in of itself, does not demand that you be either positive or negative. It simply gives you an opportunity because of its being in existence. Can you see that?
CORALINE: So it's the opportunity for conversion that exists here? It's not...
THERRY: It's the stages of acquiring Friendships. You have to bear in mind that there are laws concerning the formation of, the conversion of and the breaking up of, Friendships. Again, it's tied with the role in the scenario, the Now Effect. The influence of...I think verbatim, it's the influence of the role in the scenario, called the Now Effect. There are some people who even go so far as saying, "Hey! If you can't convert your friends, what good are they?" Or they even go so far as also saying, "Hey! If you can't take advantage of your friends, why bother having friends?"
CORALINE: Yet there's also part of it where the individual is sharing all that they've got with a new friend. Now perhaps they're converting in or trying to convert in the process of sharing.
THERRY: Or perhaps they are making themselves vulnerable by guiding the specific state of vulnerability, which is one of the necessary stages of Friendship. In order to achieve Friendship with somebody you have to make yourself vulnerable.
CORALINE: Now why is that?
THERRY: Because Friendship is a "give and take" situation. You give of yourself and you take what they offer. That's a basic rule of Friendship. Friendship cannot exist without that process. And it's a two-way street, the other individual or group has to do exactly the same thing. Unfortunately, that same process is a perfect opportunity for wars and enemies. But nonetheless, it's still the same.