Abandon All Hope Q&A page 4

DOREEN: Okay, they're touched by a Hound of Hell but they're doing other things.

THERRY: Correct.

DOREEN: Okay.

JIMMY: You must be pretty busy, man, there's a lot of people on this Planet.

DAVID: It's an automatic function of law. It doesn't depend on an entity.

JIMMY: Oh really? I'm picturing Therry like a little fairy running around.

[Laughter]

PETER: Actually he has a Santa Claus suit.

JIMMY: See, it was true!

DAVID: I think you're mixing up the Easter Bunny!

JOSE: Yeah he's right, we've used those same words, that same phrase to talk about your function. So what's the...does it have two different meanings or...?

THERRY: It has as many meanings as you want to attach to it. The level of observation creates the phenomenon.

JIMMY: It has at least nine meanings.

DAVID: You can look at it as agents in the Matrix. Anyone can have the potential to be a Hound if it has that force imbued in it for that moment. Right?

THERRY: Right.

PETER: So Therry's a Smith.

JOSE: So are all of us according to that definition...are a Smith.

ANNA: No, you're just a person and he goes like this and then you become that person for awhile.

PETER: He's a full-time Smith.

DAVID: What if there's 91 of us?

SAM: Let's take the question. Go ahead.

DOREEN: The Seven Paths...like one could be the Tibetan Path or...the way you talk about paths?

THERRY: Que sera, sera!

JIMMY: But there's only one way off the mountain?

THERRY: Right.

JIMMY: Which is?

THERRY: The Alliance of the Rule.

JIMMY: Which is us! Yes! Oh, I'm sorry!

[Laughter]

DAVID: Another eternity!

SAM: When you say the Seven Paths, what do you mean by that?

THERRY: Jean anything?

JEAN: Oh! Well, I have two questions. One was, before the New Covenant came in, does that mean that even when you were at Higher Middle Earth, you didn't have Abandon Hope Need Not be? It wasn't...?

THERRY: Before the New Covenant came in, you weren't in Middle Earth, you were in Lower Earth.

JEAN: Oh-h-h! I see, okay. Right. The second question was, it seems counter intuitive that the people at the very bottom operate under Abandon All Hope because they're the ones that need it more than the others. 'Cuz the other ones...

THERRY: Yeah but it's by right of choice.

JEAN: Oh, you mean, they have a choice?

THERRY: Right.

JEAN: Oh, okay. Right.

DAVID: Limited by the Karma they incurred by using their choice.

THERRY: Correct.

CHERRY: And where they're at, we could have all been at various times in our development.

THERRY: Correct.

JEAN: Okay.

THERRY: That's why I keep saying that the only difference between you and me is time and a shitload of experiences.

JIMMY: Can you define a shitload?

[Laughter]

JIMMY: I just want to know how far exactly, you know, that is. Getting farther by the second! [Laugh]

THERRY: Pretty soon, it'll be, hey, don't make waves!

JIMMY: I'm drowning over here! Okay.

JEAN: Did you say at one point, not in this session, but whenever...

THERRY: Only deal with this session.

JEAN: With this session? Oh okay. Alright.

THERRY: Is that it?

JEAN: Yeah.

PETER: The New Covenant was evoked by the Evolution of Mankind?

THERRY: Yes.

JIMMY: So we deserved it? Is that how...is another way of saying it? Phew! Yes! At least we could do something right!

SAM: How did we deserve it with all the savagery that's been going on through the times?

JIMMY: That's what I was thinking.

THERRY: Well, there's still a lot of people who's stuck with Abandon All Hope.

JIMMY: Would that be the Oblivionites?

THERRY: Or soon will be if they don't change...

PETER: Is there a linear time frame of when the New Covenant came into being?

THERRY: I have no way of knowing that.

SAM: I thought it was supposed to have come in Akhenaten's life experience?

THERRY: No, he brought it back to this world. It was here once before.

CHERRY: What caused it to leave?

THERRY: Man

PAUL: Man's behavior.

CHERRY: And then Man brought it back?

THERRY: Yes.

CHERRY: And he was the first to be touched in this...?

THERRY: He was the first to bring it back to this level of Earth.

SAM: And what was the first time? During Lemurian times?

JIMMY: Yeah.

PETER: Would it have been caused by wars that destroyed civilization and caused cave people to exist? Is that...would that have been...?

THERRY: Partially.

PETER: So at some point between Lemuria and the time of Atlantis had it's disaster, humankind went very dark, is that what happened?

THERRY: Yes, everytime religion gains control, you enter a period of darkness.

CHERRY: On this physical Planet, are there groups of individuals who are still operating under "Abandon Hope All Ye Who Enter?"

THERRY: Oh yeah!

CHERRY: So...people seem to think sometimes that the New Covenant is part of all of humanity on this Planet.

THERRY: Everybody has the opportunity but it doesn't mean they take advantage of it.

CHERRY: So all these very dark pockets, it's very possible they're still operating under "Abandon All Hope?"

THERRY: Correct.

JIMMY: So they haven't contacted whatever parts of them themselves, maybe their Higher Selves?

THERRY: They can't because they can't get beyond their own hatred!

PAUL: I was under the impression that the general pattern that caused the New Covenant to exist on any planet was when one individual of the species was willing to give his life in service of another.

THERRY: That's one way. There's lots of different ways to give up your life. It doesn't necessarily have to mean the choice between life and death. It could also mean the choice between servitude and freedom. To be cloistered is not necessarily limited to a house. It could also be a state of mind.

PETER: How was it that Akhenaten would have been able to bring back, it sounds almost single-handedly ...is it that the evolution of man at that time rose to it and he had the opportunity to?

THERRY: Well, he had specialized Teachers from the Temple of ...what was it called?

DAVID: Heliopolis...

THERRY: Yeah, Heliopolis. Now that Temple taught the old ways of Isis and that was the cause of giving him the ability to contact the Higher Forces. He was touched by his Hound of Hell quite often by right of choice. But he was and is...and still is in love with the Universe since Creation.

PETER: And his Teachers were not able to?

THERRY: Well, yes and no. Everything has its own level. Remember, his Teachers didn't have the power that he had. Being Pharaoh, if he said, "Shit," everybody said, "What with? How far?" Not so with the Teachers. With the Teachers, it was, "What? Go on!" Plus, the Teachers still had to take care of the affairs of life. With Pharaoh, he didn't have to. He had an awful lot of free time which he used to exemplify being in love with the Universe.

PETER: But because that is how his power was espoused, he changed the civilization of Egypt which is what he did, he was able to get out to the masses that...

THERRY: He was serving as the Hound of Hell for his time, the same way I'm serving as the Hound of Hell in my time. Not very much of his teachings were accepted by the world, the same way not very much of my teachings is being accepted by the world. But once I pop off, after a few generations or whatever, the truth will come to light and it won't have anything to do with what I've done. It will have to do because each individual looks up and says, "I want a piece of that sky!"

JEAN: So will we still get a Hound when you pop off?

THERRY: Sure!

JEAN: Okay.

THERRY: The Universe doesn't change just because you go behind life's curtain.

JEAN: Okay.

PETER: From the time of Akhenaten until present, has there always been an entity or seven or whatever number, that is performing the function of the Hound of Hell? Or are there skips when there is none incurring the debt?

THERRY: Well, there's one but he's unknown.

PETER: He would be known by some or unknown by all?

THERRY: There are no guarantees. My train of thought was broken.

SAM: You were talking about the Hound.

ANNA: And the unknown.

THERRY: Okay, Pharaoh was known by a very small group. He called them the Great White Brotherhood and a smaller group still called the Brothers of the Chain, of which he was a member. The rest of the world, they weren't interested in Maat. So long as they had food on the table and someone to come up close to and somebody to fight with, they were fine.

PETER: The Brotherhood of the Chain predates Akhenaten?

THERRY: Yeah it goes back to Lemuria. During that time, people were not locked into their body the way they are now. Astration was more prevalent. But then, that's not part of this one either, so we won't go there.

JIMMY: Does "Abandon All Hope All Ye Who Enter" have anything to do with the Seven Seals being broken?

THERRY: Yes, but that's not part of this one either, so we won't go there.

PETER: I think this throws us into this conversation about "Abandon Hope" and that is, when humanity first started, was there a Brotherhood of the Chain?

THERRY: No. The Brothers of the Chain were never human back then. They were Angels. Or I don't know what you want to call them. I call them Angels. But they were Holy people, people "Among the Earth but not of the Earth."

PETER: Since the very beginning?

THERRY: Yes. There is a rumor, for whatever it's worth, that the original Brothers of the Chain were children between parents of Angels and mortals. Somewheres in the Lexicon, it says, "And the Sons of Oneness looked upon the Daughters of Earth and saw that they were fair and descended and took them as wives."

PETER: I had a different meaning that they were feared...

JIMMY: The question that I asked, when would be a good time to...

THERRY: When we get to that section.

JIMMY: What section would that be?

THERRY: You'll have to find it.

JEAN: [Laugh]

THERRY: That's your job, not mine.

ARLENE: Therry, how do you answer Doreen's question about, how come people, we don't...not even people who have been touched by the Hound of Hell, they're not here in this house, that, they're Seven Paths. Is there a chance either in this lifetime or whenever that those Seven Paths are going to merge or they are going to...

THERRY: There's no way of knowing that. It's unlikely.

ARLENE: Because they have different games to play?

THERRY: Yeah, the framework's different for each.

SAM: What are the Seven Paths again?

THERRY: Right!

[Laughter]

JEAN: If and when the Ark of Fire gets built, does that mean that the other Six Paths will be at the Ark of Fire?

THERRY: I don't know that.

JEAN: Oh, okay.

THERRY: And besides, that's not part of this one.

JEAN: Okay.

PAUL: When you say there are Seven Paths, there's actually six (6) other schools of thought, six other equally valid frameworks that are not the same as the Arkashean frame of thought?

THERRY: Yeah. The pattern's the same, the method's the same but the language and the meaning and the customs are different.

JIMMY: But is the essence the same? It's the same essence?

THERRY: Well, they're practically the same, just different.

PAUL: Are any of those other paths a lot more widely accepted or are they all struggling to maintain...?

THERRY: I would have no way of knowing that.

PETER: Are you aware of the other six (6)?

THERRY: Yeah.

CHERRY: A lot depends on the culture that they are in.

THERRY: Right.

PETER: Okay, my next question...Is there that many because of the various cultures that are on Earth, all different?

THERRY: I don't think so because not all cultures are represented. But again, that's not part of this one, so we won't go there either.

CHERRY: I think, again getting back to what Doreen was saying, I believe and correct me if I'm wrong, a lot of people are gaining information. And just because they don't walk through this door and are not in here, they are learning things via various connections with everyone in this room.

THERRY: That is correct.

CHERRY: And maybe...

THERRY: Especially through the cafe.

CHERRY: And maybe not in this lifetime, but in the next lifetime...

THERRY: Or some lifetime...

CHERRY: They will then reside within these walls.

THERRY: That is correct.

SAM: So if we don't have a cafe, we're lost!

THERRY: [Laugh]

PETER: Or they're lost.

SAM: Yeah, we're doing a disservice! Do we have to have a cafe?

THERRY: Maybe there is another way that we can do the same job.

ANNA: That would be nice.

[Laughter]

CHERRY: There's so many doing teaching and I know they teach a lot more than their music.

THERRY: Yeah.

CHERRY: David is looking at flies and lots of people talk to him...[Laugh]

SAM: We're going to have a bar instead.

DOREEN: No!

CHERRY: We need Renee during the night. She can't be at a bar during the day.

JEAN: We can teach computers.

CHERRY: We got enough computer people.

SAM: How about a concert hall?

DOREEN: We'll be ushers.

THERRY: Anything else?

JIMMY: Thank you.

THERRY: David, anything?

DAVID: No.

THERRY: Sam?

SAM: No, I'm okay.

THERRY: Okay, so everybody that's it? That's it! Read the next entry.