Akhenaten Questions and Answers Page 2
GINA: Therry, how come...the Ark is something that you can build just like, how he sits, so how......
THERRY: Correct....
GINA: If you build it, I don't understand how just something that you can build, then if you put it in a pyramid, just that way, we will get peace....
THERRY: Because there's more to the Ark than just the built wood....
GINA: Like?...
THERRY: Well, there's a power there....
GINA: Where does it come from?...
THERRY: The Universe....
LILIA: Are there signs along the way? Are we given signs with instructions along the way to get to that place? Are there like bread crumbs that we should be looking for that are available to get to that place where the possibility exists where it will be built again and placed back?...
THERRY: There are descriptions of the Ark...various universities decided to rebuild the Ark and they had to destroy it - it was too dangerous....
MIKE: What...what exactly is this?...
THERRY: Huh?...
MIKE: What is this exactly? This artifact?...
THERRY: The Ark of the Covenant?...
MIKE: Yes....
THERRY: That's very difficult to explain. Let's just say it's a Universal translator between Man and what Man perceives their God to be....
LILIA: Why did it become dangerous after they built it?...
THERRY: The term is electrocution....
MIKE: So then that scene in Indiana Jones, is that like accurate?...
THERRY: Yes....
MIKE: [Whistle]...
[Chuckles]...
LILIA: That's what I thought of it...in the wrong hands, the Covenant becomes destructive versus good....
THERRY: If you understand how to use it......
CLARK: Is it going to get more dark before it gets less dark?...
THERRY: I don't know....
MIKE: So we shouldn't hold our breath then?...
THERRY: I wouldn't....
MIKE: Is there anything we here can do to......
THERRY: Yeah, keep doing what we're doing, keep growing. Keep developing our spirituality. Don't knock religion too, too badly because they are serving as a crutch for many people. A bad crutch is better than no crutch....
MIKE: It's interesting that you should say that because I've been having this realization just by working in the cafe. I've come across certain people that I would hire that I found out would be fairly dependable, fairly honorable and then come to find out later that they have, you know...there's a belief like that they're uhh religious, mostly Christian or something like that. So I found out that geez, maybe they're good for something because it appears as though their dependability has been an outcropping or brought about by their belief in their religion. So that's funny you should mention that 'cause I guess I kind of maybe had that kind of angle...view on religion, you know, "My God, you know!" But I'm actually seeing that it does serve a purpose, it can be good and helpful, you know, in this tiny example which for me is a big example but...in the big picture. That's kinda what you're talking about?...
CARL: At the risk of being a little preachy, that's one thing I think we do need to watch around here, 'cause ever so often, an anti-religion ranting comes out and sometimes its amongst [others]. Other people hear it and they could easily get the wrong impression about us and it's not nice to do anyway. I mean, religion is important to a lot of people - it's like attacking their God....
MIKE: Yeah, just look at the world and we'll know how important it is - they'll kill for it....
TAMMY: So this Ark, you place it in the pyramid and then it activates the pyramid?...
THERRY: Well, the pyramid has its own power....
TAMMY: Right....
THERRY: And the Ark has its own power....
TAMMY: So they're in......
THERRY: One amplifies the other....
TAMMY: Oh, okay....
MIKE: Yeah, I heard somewhere that the Pyramid...Great Pyramid was used by the High Priest of Ancient Egypt as a ....like a nultra- powerful, Astral Projection machine or something. Is that correct?...
THERRY: Yes....
MIKE: And that this...the way it was built was via some sort of levitation that they used with these rods where they would tap the stones and impart to the stones this kind of magnetic field as such and it would sort of push...is that accurate as well? Or ...is that moot?...
THERRY: Well, that's not part of this uhh......
MIKE: It's not germane...
THERRY: Yeah......
MIKE: ...or welcome. Okay....
CLARK: [Chuckle]...
MIKE: After I used that word, I just thought I ...that word, why did I use it? Sorry. [Chuckle]...
COREY: The Rosicrucians claim to have a lot of the ancient teachings of Akhenaten recorded. Do you know if this is true?...
THERRY: I don't know. It's possible....
TOM: What do they say they're for?...
COREY: For their own education and people within the organization that achieved a certain level or a certain state of spirituality where they can handle it apparently....
THERRY: I think they bring...they publish them in their manuscripts and their monographs....
COREY: Do you have those here?...
TOM: I don't have anything that says, "This is the manuscripts of Akhenaten." I have...they write stuff and then they base it on what they believe is the teachings of Akhenaten. But I've never seen a document that says, "This is the stuff from Akhenaten's Temple." I've read or looked at quite a few. I have quite a few that I have not read. I believe I have almost every single thing they ever wrote in those monographs somewhere. So...I haven't seen it, is what I think is the definitive answer....
COREY: In other of their writings, they've stated that they have archived information....
TOM: Yeah, that they do claim......
CLARK: Yeah I read the same thing....
CARL: There's something...Maybe I don't have enough information but it almost seems illogical, when we're talking about... Okay, you put the Ark of the Covenant back in the pyramids, it almost sounds like, okay, we have some technological device that has certain abilities but what good is that if the hearts of Man and Man's spirituality hasn't reached that point, I mean that's how things gets destroyed every time. So I thought that people's mind sets......
THERRY: Man is not going to return the Ark until his heart has changed....
CARL: Hmmm....
MIKE: So is it the changing of the heart that comes before the placement of the Ark?...
THERRY: Correct....
CARL: Yeah but at some point if the hearts of Man don't change and when you don't change to a certain degree and one or the other gets destroyed, the Pyramids or the Ark of the Covenant, does that mean that humanity's doomed or it can't depend on just that? I mean if their hearts and minds get them to where they need to be, isn't that more important?...
THERRY: Fortunately, both can be recreated....
CILLA: Was the uhm taking of the Ark out of the Pyramid...was that an uhm individual as far as one person that de-evolved or whatever you want to call it and did that have a direct impact on the de-evolution of all Mankind or was it that all of Mankind de-evolved for lack of a better word because I don't quite understand what I'm trying to say, but Mankind as a whole de-evolved and that's what caused somebody to take the Ark out of the Pyramid? Was it individual or was it collective?...
THERRY: The Ark was taken out of the Covenant during the Grand Exodus....
MIKE: Oh! By the Jews....
THERRY: Yes....
MIKE: That's why you said the Jews have to return the Ark of the Covenant?...
THERRY: Yes....
MIKE: Okay....
CILLA: What was their purpose to take it out? Did they know that they were going to be sending a Dark Age?...
THERRY: Power....
MIKE: But they obviously weren't able to hold on to it because they don't have it now, right?...
CARL: Yes, they do....
THERRY: They have it....
MIKE: Oh, they do?...
CILLA: So did they realize that the pyramids and the Ark together uhm were the key to having this function uhm optimally?...
THERRY: I would have no way of knowing that....
LILIA: Do you think that ...Do they know what they have now?...
THERRY: What?...
LILIA: Do they know what they have now? And if they didn't know it then, do they know the power of it now?...
THERRY: No, not any more than what they knew then....
CILLA: So they don't realize they have to take it back to the pyramid?...
CARL: Something doesn't make sense historically though. According to all the history, when the Jews went through their Exodus out of Egypt, it wasn't something where they weren't in control of the power or anything. I mean, how would they even get near the Ark of the Covenant. There was no way that place wasn't guarded by Egyptians who had the power and control. The Jews were just running their asses out of there as fast as they could! How did they get control of the......
THERRY: Well, not really...they had sufficient time to gather their things together....
CARL: 24 hours!...
THERRY:...to gather the spoils of Egypt....
CARL: There's no...But Egypt was not in decay or ruin or any of that. It was still the powerhouse. There's no way the Jews would get near the Pyramids, historically speaking....
THERRY: Hmmm....
CARL: Especially in 24 hours or whenever they had to get out of there....
THERRY: No, that's not accurate....
CARL: Oh yes it is! The whole history is everywhere. I mean...unless......
PAUL: History is not always accurate....
COREY: What about the Plague?...
CARL: Egypt was not under any sort of siege at that point where they were uhh......
COREY: The Plague......
CARL: They were still a political dynamo. They were not in total disarray. There may've been a Plague and they might've said, uhh get out of here, Jews, but they didn't abandon all the structures or power structures. They were still in the command!...
COREY: Couldn't there have been madness and mayhem during some of the Plagues where...also, let me ask you this question, the Plagues that were brought down upon Egypt, was the Ark of the Covenant already in the hands of the Hebrews at that time?...
CARL: No....
THERRY: I don't think so....
CARL: It happened during the Exodus....
CHERRY: So all throughout the last 2000 or more years and prior to 60 years ago, the Jews did not have a home - they traveled throughout Europe and the Middle East with them being constantly kicked out of places....
THERRY: Right....
CHERRY: They took the Ark of the Covenant everywhere with them?...
THERRY: Yes....
CHERRY: ...until they returned back to Israel?...
THERRY: Yes....
CILLA: Uhm, I have a question, but it's about a book that I read called the Hierarchy. Uhm and it's about the Knight's Templars history and in the beginning the documentation stated that uhm well, the people that wrote it were professors of history at a university in England and they did research and found out that in the beginning....where the story is, there was the teachings from the Great Pyramid uhm and there was uhm one priest that actually knew all the secrets...I don't remember names, I apologize...this was awhile ago when I read this. But this priest was murdered by three people and uhm it had something to do with Moses and Moses fled because he was one of the murderers of this priest and he went into the wilderness and the Jewish people found him and they taught him their ways. And according to the history from what this book said, the Jewish people didn't have one God, they only had family gods, clan gods and the god named Jehovah literally translated to the "God of Lightning," which they were saying directly had something to do with the Ark of the Covenant because they called the Ark of the Covenant a lightning conductor, it actually conducts light and electricity. And so, if Moses learned these secrets from this clan of Jewish people but he also knew the secrets because he was in the priesthood and the pyramids, could that have something to do with why he was able to get in and why the Ark of the Covenant was able to be stolen because he was a like spy for both camps, so to speak?...
THERRY: Yes, but none of that matters....
CILLA: None of that matters?...
THERRY: Yeah. Yes, because this is not a discussion on the Ark, it's a discussion on Akhenaten....
LILIA: Then, I want to ask you one last question about the Ark? Is it like in a warehouse somewhere? I mean you know, assuming they have it, I mean where is it being kept physically or is it in some structure or cave or I mean...where are they hiding it?...
THERRY: Good question....
LILIA: But it's a physical thing that they are actually hiding somewhere and somebody knows where it is......
THERRY: It would seem so....
LILIA:...passed down secretively through, whatever....
THERRY: Supposedly....
LILIA: Supposedly....
CILLA: If they had...if Moses or whomever had these kinds of teachings though, wouldn't the teachings have been uhm akin to Akhenaten's teachings and there would still be people who knew that now if it was handed down through generations?...
THERRY: It's quite possible....
COREY: Moses was historically quite a bit after Akhenaten? Yes? 800 B.C. or something like that?...
CARL: Yeah but......
CILLA: Yeah, but would there maybe still be priests that knew...at least part of the teachings?...
COREY: I don't know the answer to that, but what I was going to say was that, uhm when Akhenaten was killed and his...the City of Tel El Amarna was razed to the ground, they stole all the blocks and built other structures out of them and everything and pretty much wiped out everything they could possibly have wiped out. So by the time of Moses, unless there was a small-related band of the Great White Brotherhood, uhm it would've been pretty much wiped out....
THERRY: No government can erase anyone from history. Little threads of truth always remain. They just go underground....
TARA: Therry, if Akhenaten had....Akhenaten didn't have to be celibate to gain all the wisdom that he had...he had a lot of wives at that time. If that was accurate information, why can't we sort of follow his path and still gain the same level of wisdom that he did?...
THERRY: Because that's not where my feelings brought me....
TOM: There's also something else you have to realize. He was the King of the World....
PAUL: What did you say Tom, because he was King of the World?...
TOM: He was basically the King of the World. Huh?...
PAUL: [So he had to have a wife?]...
TOM: Because you have to. There's certain things you have to do! If you're going to be Pharaoh and you're going to run the world, you gotta have kids. You can't be a King without children. I mean, I'm pretty sure that his plan was not to die and see religion get stamped out. I'm pretty sure he was attempting to create a new way of life....
GINA: So you're saying that if you have a kid, you can't be spiritual?...
TOM: No....
GINA: Well, that's what it kinda sounded like....
TOM: No, she's saying why do we have to be celibate....
GINA: Yeah, I know....
THERRY: Well, there's a very good chance that Nefertiti was in on the murder-plot to kill Akhenaten....
TARA: She poisoned him....
THERRY: Yes....
LILIA: Therry, what did you mean when you said that's not where your feelings brought you?...
THERRY: Just what I said. I go by my feelings, not by my understanding....
LILIA: Feelings for the structure of Arkashea as it is now, correct?...
THERRY: Feelings about everything. Now, as I understand history, that Nefertiti became Pharaoh and went back to Thebes and re-established the old gods, but she was so hated that she too was murdered....
PAUL: By General Horamheb, right? General Horamheb?...
THERRY: Well, no, General Horamheb was the next major Pharaoh. There's a lot of little Pharaohs that didn't last for beans....
MIKE: It seemed like Nefertiti was in cahoots with the Priests of Amen Re or did she just......
THERRY: Yeah because she wanted to really rule Egypt....
CLARK: Did Akhenaten know he was going to be murdered?...
THERRY: No....
CLARK: Because he had visions all the time, right?...
PAUL: He didn't have that one....
TOM: I think he must've known....
THERRY: It's quite possible....
LILIA: Was Nefertiti spiritual? I know she murdered her husband, but......
MIKE: Therry, I have another question, it says here, you know, that Egypt's history was strongly influenced by space travel....
THERRY: Yes....
MIKE: Would that imply that Akhenaten or his lineage or maybe he himself at some point had dealings with beings from other planets?...
THERRY: Other World Teachers....
MIKE: Okay. Would they be in physical form or is it...we're talking about spiritual form or...?...
THERRY: Which crystal ball would you like me to use?...
MIKE: Okay, I guess it doesn't matter, right?...
COREY: Akhenaten brought back the New Covenant as it was written before, is that correct?...
THERRY: Correct. It was here during the time of Lemuria....
COREY: But not during Atlantis?...
THERRY: Atlantis was a time of darkness......
COREY: So the......
THERRY:...it's when science gained control....
MIKE: And now we're on the verge of religion gaining control....
THERRY: Huh?...
MIKE: It seems like now we're on the verge of religion gaining control....
THERRY: Yeah....
MIKE: If not already....
COREY: On the verge? Well, it was in control for thousands of years....
MIKE: Yeah....
CARL: Yeah, if you look at the way religion is now, compared to the way it was, religion's at the low point, science has been in charge for a long time....
MIKE: I was thinking in terms of being able to just obliterate, you know......
CARL: It takes a nuclear bomb which is science rather religion......
MIKE: No, no, no, not if it was a nuclear bomb driven by ......
CARL: U.S. government?...
MIKE:...religious fundamentalist ideology i.e. Islamic nuclear bombs, i.e. Iran, whose prime mission stated goal is to hasten its prophecy of the end of the world or something like that because they believe they're going to have a return of some prophet or something like that, you know what I mean. So it's like driven by science obviously yes, which is what is powering the rockets, but launching the rockets is powered by religion....
CARL: Not necessarily. There are so many causes. Land battles, oil - has nothing to do with religion. I mean it could be, but religion for the most part is not the dominant force like it used to be. I mean it controlled everything. Nothing happened without religion controlling it at certain times in history....
MIKE: Okay....
CARL: I mean it might be on the rise in some areas but still......
COREY: It seems historically that some of this is a backlash of religion....
CARL: Yeah....
COREY: That religion had such control over all literacy and knowledge that everything had to be a matter of faith, just do as you're told, shut up or you'll go to hell - that the empirical way of science that has a lack of spirituality or had, let's say, a lack of spirituality was a backlash from that. It would say, "Hey, I want to measure something, things that I can touch, I know are real and I believe it."...
MIKE: And so did that happen in Lemuria?...
TOM: Probably in Lemuria science became the religion and when science becomes religion, then you're in real trouble....
MIKE: Yeah....
TOM: Because you have the worst of both worlds....