Arkashea QandA 080

Arkashean Q&A Session -- 080

DUNCAN: Okay, so you can do both--warp time and space?

THERRY: Yeah. But the difference is that its not you. Its the laws governing the LifeForce.

DUNCAN: In Astration its you?

THERRY: Yeah, in Astration you leave your body and it is you who is traveling through time and space... It's a case of there is a separation between that part of LifeForce/MindForce Pairing that separates and goes of to do its own thing. MindForce detaches from the pairing and goes traveling, leaving LifeForce behind.

DUNCAN: So what is it? In a projection the LifeForce/MindForce Pairing just paints a picture for you?

THERRY: Yes.

DUNCAN: How about this--only with Love can the Universe limit or exchange the components of Karma.

THERRY: Love is the only thing that is capable of changing automatic pilot, and therefore, it is the only thing that is capable of neutralizing or otherwise getting rid of the chains that bind you.

DUNCAN: What level of love are we talking about?

THERRY: Love only has one level. It just is.

DUNCAN: So if you don't have love you're not going to be able to change your automatic pilot?

THERRY: If you don't strive for it, yeah.

DUNCAN: So all that's necessary is that you are striving for it?

THERRY: Yeah. That's--again this gets into a tricky little area. Remember you can fool everybody but you can't fool yourself. So you can't make a game out of striving so then that's not striving and therefore automatic pilot will not be changed.

DUNCAN: But the individual himself doesn't have to recognize that, he just has to be willing to change more or less for a better way of life--

THERRY: Exactly.

DUNCAN: I got a question. When we talk about people's hearts and what's in their heart and so forth, are we talking about their heart of their consciousness or what?

THERRY: All levels of it.

DUNCAN: Excuse me?

THERRY: All levels of it. We're talking about them, themselves. The continuum of the walk of freedom via the walk of Predestiny and vice versa.

DUNCAN: So what's the difference between somebody's heart and somebody's mind?

THERRY: One is the walk of freedom and the other is the walk of Predestiny.

DUNCAN: And which one is which?

THERRY: You figure it out.

DUNCAN: I would say that the mind is the walk--of Predestiny.

THERRY: Nope it is the other way around. If its in your heart it is already committed... You've already decided that that is what you are going to do. The decision has already been made. The emotions have already been attached to it and given it mobility, and therefore, that's what's going to occur. If its in the mind, you haven't yet given it the mobility, the emotions are not attached to it yet. Again now you have to differentiate between your mind and your thoughts, because it is possible that the things that are in your heart are also in your thoughts. Can you differentiate the difference? See you have to have a method of differentiation with your things. That's why you have different labels. Your heart is already those things that already given them mobility. Your mind are those things that have not been given mobility. But you are still capable of thinking of both things independently of one another and therefore both things are in your thoughts.

DUNCAN: Alright. I have to think about it for a while.

THERRY: Well, see, that's an example of the power of language. Its the same thing if you have one diamond, but you only want to talk about one small part of it. Well, you have to have a label for each part of the whole. Those are the limitations of language. That's what they are used for. Okay?

DUNCAN: Okay. How about this? Arkashea for quite some time will be scattered. But when it is Arkashea's time for each individual, the world shall unite. What does that mean for each individual?

THERRY: Just what it says. When Arkashea's time comes, it will be like a wave that will sweep the earth. All the old ways shall be rendered asunder. All the old gods will die. It will be the Second Coming that you hear about. It will be the time when, indeed, the Lion will lay down with the lamb. It will be the time that will end war. Strife shall be no more. It will be the time when brother will look at each other with love, as opposed to with hatred and envy. It will, indeed, be the time of peace... and, through that peace many will be destroyed. Those who seek to live by the sword shall die by the sword and it will be their own swords that shall kill them. It shall be their own hearts that will imprison them. And it will be their own judgments that will condemn them. Does that explain it?

DUNCAN: I don't know. Maybe I don't have the language for it?

THERRY: It will be a major shift in the awareness of the world. There will be a very big separation. There will be a very big gathering. All the false gods will die.

DUNCAN: Well, I understand what you are saying but I don't know how it relates for each of these things for each individual.

THERRY: Because you have to remember that there is going to be a judgment there. Is not a judgment made against each individual?

DUNCAN: Yes.

THERRY: So can you not see how it applies?

DUNCAN: Well, maybe I'll look up the word each.

THERRY: Okay. Go look it up. So is it not saying that individually the entire people of the world will be judged?

DUNCAN: Yes, I suppose so.

THERRY: What do you mean I suppose so?

DUNCAN: I don't know. To me, it seems like you're using the first each to mean Arkashea's time.

THERRY: No. Well, everything has to do with Arkashea's time in that. What is your point of confusion?

DUNCAN: I don't know what that means--each for each individual.

THERRY: Read the whole thing. See you're stripping things apart to such a great degree that there's no continuity so obviously you can't understand.

DUNCAN: Arkashea, for quite some time will be scattered. But when Arkashea's time comes, each for each individual, the law shall unite.

THERRY: So isn't that saying each law for each individual?

DUNCAN: Uhhm.

THERRY: Is that not another way of saying, for each individual, each law shall unite?

DUNCAN: I guess it could be, but I didn't see it that way because laws is after each, so each always refers to it.

THERRY: So, its a different way of talking. Remember that is a very old manuscript.

DUNCAN: Okay, I'm finished up with that. But that was the point of confusion or--

THERRY: You have to bear in mind that the stuff that I've given you is very old and it comes from different languages.

DUNCAN: Okay.

THERRY: So you have to accept that difference.

DUNCAN: Alright, but I just didn't realize that that was how it was supposed to be--

THERRY: 'Cause it's written so that it has many levels to it.

DUNCAN: Alright. Now how about this law. On the face of the six points shall I sleep.

THERRY: Yeah, that stuff is for Lesson Two.

DUNCAN: How about peace being one of the prime components that crosses the barrier between Dialusion and illusion?

THERRY: Yeah.

DUNCAN: Actually there isn't as much here as I thought there was. Either that or I'll just pick one of them here?

THERRY: Uh-huh.

DUNCAN: Alright, how about Man being the Second Manifestation of the Trinity and the Second Manifestation of the Powers of--

THERRY: No.

DUNCAN: Okay. Well, it says here, take into your heart the Precepts of Understanding.

THERRY: Yeah.

DUNCAN: As I understood that that meant be willing to change. So don't deny the truth when you hear it. But I was wondering specifically whether there are certain precepts of understanding that that was referring to.

THERRY: They are relative to the situation and the persons for their purposes and that.

DUNCAN: Okay. Okay, it says take into your heart the burden of time's wisdom.

THERRY: Yeah.

DUNCAN: There is a special claim of wisdom which can only be gotten through the passage of time depending upon having the passage of time through a scenario of drama in a role. Hence that is called time's wisdom for it is part of time not a part of space. What kind of wisdom is a product of space?

THERRY: Most wisdom.

DUNCAN: Really.

THERRY: Yeah.

DUNCAN: I don't really understand that. It seems like to me that the way you gain wisdom is that you go through some kind of interaction or something.

THERRY: And where does that interaction occur? Is not you LifeForce limited to the space of common reality?

DUNCAN: In both time and space.

THERRY: But it's --no, its not through both.

DUNCAN: Its not?

THERRY: The experience happens within space. Everything else of the moment happens within the individual's World of Alfa. There is an interaction that is strictly time's. An example of that would be the things that you do not know and the things that you come to know because of maturation. That's an example however crude of time's wisdom. Strictly a matter of time and not a matter of space. It doesn't matter where you place the individual. He will not be able to conceive, deceive or understand. But when a sufficient amount of time has passed, the individual will grow and obtain the things that he needs, be they physical growth, be they mental growth, be they emotional growth, whatever, it is a product of time and therefore it's time's wisdom. Once achieving time's wisdom, then his learning more than likely will revert back to space's wisdom.

DUNCAN: I'm still having trouble understanding what is space's wisdom.

THERRY: Well, everything that you learn, you are learning within the boundaries of space. Obviously time is not divorced from this. But this area that we are talking about, the subject of this particular conversation belongs to time alone. You can put all the space in the Universe there, but its not sufficient or it will not take place.

DUNCAN: Right.

THERRY: Did that answer your question?

DUNCAN: Uh-hmm. Well, I have my own ideas. I don't know if they are correct, but at least I have an idea now.

THERRY: What is that?

DUNCAN: That most of what is going on, that these interactions, and these roles and these scenarios, that's space's wisdom. Its only time's wisdom if some of those outside things matters that its passed your time and that makes it time's wisdom.

THERRY: Right. Because in most things its a cooperation. Its time and space.

DUNCAN: Right.

THERRY: Although that is really called space's wisdom, not time.

DUNCAN: Cause obviously time is going to have to be inclusive.

THERRY: I think its called space's wisdom because the wisdom itself is relative to the circle of awareness and you are in a certain parcept of space whereas an individual in that same time, that is in a different space, will have different wisdom, different experiences and therefore it is called space's wisdom. Understand that we use maturation as an example of time's wisdom. Obviously that was a very crude way, a very crude manner. There are wisdom's that are far greater than strictly maturation. But it is an example.

DUNCAN: Okay.

THERRY: Okay. A perfect example of that other one, time's wisdom, is the readiness for change as a matter of time. That becomes time's wisdom.

DUNCAN: Doesn't that also depend on--

THERRY: Its independent of space.

DUNCAN: Well, I mean I understand that, but I'm trying to understand why. It doesn't seem that it would be independent of space.

THERRY: Because it has to do with the growth, the mind, and the way it uses the language to speak to itself. It has to do with shifting values, changing priorities. That's time's wisdom, not space's wisdom.

DUNCAN: But I thought that all those things were predicated on however much crap you've put up with or however much pain, whatever you want to call it, and so on and so forth.

THERRY: That's still time's wisdom and not space's wisdom. Because it doesn't much matter where you are in space, when sufficient things have gone through independent of space, those shifts of levels of observation will occur. They are strictly time's.

DUNCAN: Alright, this "What If/But" syndrome. What if says, make sure that are some hidden windows scattered about.

THERRY: Yes.

DUNCAN: And those hidden windows are all in automatic pilot?

THERRY: Yes.

DUNCAN: What about what are they.

THERRY: That's not for this lesson.

DUNCAN: And then in discussing that it says, Illusions retain the focus of not one but many. All seemed to experience the diversity of free-will. What is the significance of seemed?

THERRY: Go look it up. Repeat.

DUNCAN: I'm still having trouble understanding why they chose to use the word seemed.

THERRY: Why? What would you want them to use? What other label in your language that would satisfy that?

DUNCAN: Well, I don't know, because--

THERRY: Are you not--

DUNCAN: I mean, I understand the definition of the word, but I just don't understand--

THERRY: Are you not trying to put limitations there that don't exist.

DUNCAN: I don't know, perhaps I am. Why does it seem that I am?

THERRY: Is that not multilevel?

DUNCAN: Yes.

THERRY: What other words could you use that would imply multilevel?

DUNCAN: I don't know.

THERRY: Is there other words in your English language that can do the same job?

DUNCAN: Appear?

THERRY: Isn't that the same as the definition of seems?

DUNCAN: Yeah.

THERRY: So then why would you use the word appear there? What difference between the word seem and appear?

DUNCAN: None. But I was just answering your question.

THERRY: Would you not have the same questions or would you not have the same point of logic if it were used, the word appear.

DUNCAN: Yeah. But I guess when I look at it for meaning more than one level it makes it easier to understand. So I guess its not that bad.

THERRY: So obviously it is saying that things were believed that were not so--or not necessarily so. It depends on the individual, their values and their purpose.

DUNCAN: Well, I took it to mean the people who didn't become trapped were looking at them from their point of view. They just seemed to be doing whatever they were doing but the people didn't really know what was really going on.

THERRY: Noooo. There's one thing that you are missing in that. The implication that those who were not trapped saw something and those who were trapped saw something totally different. There's a difference between perceiving and knowing or knowing and understanding or knowing and realization. Its one thing to look at something and say "Oh yeah, this is this and this is that. But its quite something else for somebody to live through it themselves. Those who look down saw that all was of free-will. Everything came of free-will. It was of free-will that you can do this and you can do that. But it is something else to be caught in an illusion where you can no longer break away. Okay.

DUNCAN: Alright. Akhenaten selected a few individuals and taught them in that wisdom. He guided them through the method that was used to teach him as the true wisdom of the GreatForce's commandment within his heart to receive the laws of reality. What does that mean, the true wisdom of the GreatForce's commandment?

THERRY: What does it mean?

DUNCAN: I would say that they already mean Universal laws?

THERRY: Right.

DUNCAN: So you pick the ones that he already knew?

THERRY: In other words, you pick ones that are not caught in the stubbornness of their own ways. They are willing to learn.

DUNCAN: Okay.

THERRY: Yep.

DUNCAN: Alright, now, as far as I was concerned I was happy with this part on the pairings, but I didn't know what to say.

THERRY: Well, you left out a hell of a lot.

DUNCAN: What did I leave out?

THERRY: You left out--remember we've been showing you nature programs. We've calling attention to certain states and quality of life that came about as a direct result of pairings.

DUNCAN: I thought I did. I had all kinds of things.

THERRY: Alright we shall see next time we read it.

DUNCAN: I mean to my understanding pairings is in everything, not just the LifeForce, right? But Uhhm, in this thing I only applied it to the LifeForce more or less. It mattered generally. I got a question about this. It says that as the pattern of diversity continues, the levels of creation also continues. Matter became more gross. Finally, the physical Universe as we know it came into being. I thought the physical universe came into being right with the creation of matter and not necessarily with gross matter. I thought the physical universe was from the bottom of the gross matter all the way up to just below Orthodontiks.

THERRY: Obviously, it is making a differentiation between the physical matter that you would call a radio wave versus the physical matter that you walk upon. Also, there is a difference between the existence of matter and organizing that matter to create a bubble that will support life, do you think?

DUNCAN: So for this matter, for this specific case the physical universe means this part of it?

THERRY: That's what the continuum is, isn't it? It starts on the stuff that you cannot walk on and goes all the way to the stuff that you do walk on. Thing is--

DUNCAN: They're using the same words a lot of the time and they mean more than one different things, so I never know-- I never know which way we're using it.

THERRY: Okay. The thing to do is not to look at the individual words but to look at the paragraph of the statement of the whole. and that tells you how its being used. You get your usage from the context.

DUNCAN: I still have to make sure of this. Asides from the pairings which either you will be satisfied or I guess I'll have to change later, I guess that's about it.

THERRY: Do you want to discuss anything else?

DUNCAN: Yes. The one where we had the first word of freedom? And then the same situation arises again and again. In simple terms I am trying to find out how many times you have to do something before you create Predestiny.

THERRY: Three time. Once on the thought level and twice on that which is real level.

DUNCAN: So even though...

THERRY: So we did get into it. Yeah.

DUNCAN: The first one, on the thought level, might be the first word of freedom.

THERRY: Yeah.

DUNCAN: And the second one, the first on the that which is real level, would be the first word of Karma?

THERRY: The third time, really the second time on the that which is real level, becomes second thought. Its the second word. At that point you have left freedoms and have gone into Predestiny. They're not totally condemned. You still have a measure of freedom but are you condemned to that deed.

DUNCAN: In Orthodontiks is there unlimited freedom?

THERRY: No.

DUNCAN: What's it limited by? So, games implies free will.

THERRY: Yes, games implies freewill, to a degree.

DUNCAN: Why is it--I don't know--This might be a stupid question, but why do they use the word games? Is it good?

THERRY: Well, the phrase was coined by Dr. Barnard or something like that. The people who wrote, Games People Play.

DUNCAN: Yeah.

THERRY: And incidentally, we use his definition of games, because games must be unconscious and they are designed for destruction's sake.

DUNCAN: Do they have to be unconscious, or can they be not truthfully? You know, like an ulterior motive--like you might know but you won't let the other person know it?

THERRY: We use it that way, but he does not.

DUNCAN: I thought he did, but I'll have to check I guess.

THERRY: We have broadened his definition.

DUNCAN: So what's our definition?

THERRY: Games?

DUNCAN: Yeah.

THERRY: The interaction people chose out of their freewill.

DUNCAN: So it has to be for destruction's sake?

THERRY: But it has to be for destruction's sake. So in that case, in order to be a little more accurate, you'd have to say that reality's interactions are divided into three areas: Predestiny, freewill and growth.

DUNCAN: Freewill being in this case a synonym for games? So you don't consider growth games?

THERRY: No, I consider growth behaviors which are designed to release you from games.

DUNCAN: Now, I'm confused because it seems like I'm getting information that I didn't get before.

THERRY: Why should that confuse you?

DUNCAN: Because its in direct opposition unless I'm misunderstanding.

THERRY: How so?

DUNCAN: Because I remember when I first got here and we talked about games and I asked you about growth and you said "Yeah, its a game. Its just that its a positive game, but it still a game."

THERRY: That's the general pattern. All life's interaction is a game because you are simply swapping a lower game for a higher game. Same way as in life you are swapping a lower illusion for a higher illusion. So long as there is a physical plane that you are in, regardless of what dimension or regardless of what level you're still swapping one illusion for another, so in that grand sense, your original information is still correct. But now we're getting into specifics, so you have to set aside that and go within the boundaries of the original definition.

DUNCAN: So this is another level of being.

THERRY: Yes. The original definition is still correct.

DUNCAN: Well--

THERRY: You have to understand that we have prefixed this particular conversation by saying that within the framework of this particular reality, that limits us to the common reality, the common awareness of the physical planet earth. Obviously, there's a hell of a lot more to reality than just that. So we've set limits, we've set boundaries, and it is within those limits that we are speaking of now.

DUNCAN: Well, in this definition that I have, in the broader sense, where it says that a game is any scenario wherein there is an interplay between life and its process--

THERRY: Well, that definition and stuff does not have these limitations.

DUNCAN: Right, I understand that.

THERRY: Right.

DUNCAN: But, this is what I had in mind, but maybe I didn't communicate that to you.

THERRY: Okay.

DUNCAN: But that's what I had in mind.

THERRY: Okay.

DUNCAN:--games from that sense. Now, so any scenario--that's why I asked you in the beginning

THERRY: Yes.

DUNCAN: Almost anything you do from this definition-- agrees--

THERRY: Yes.

DUNCAN: --with any interaction.

THERRY: Yes. Because its always a thing of swapping one illusion for another.

DUNCAN: So they call them games because it is arbitrary which one you choose, is that why its called a game? I'm trying the understand the significance of describing why it is called a game.

THERRY: On that level we call it a game to make it easier to handle, but its really not a game, its really an illusion.

DUNCAN: Alright, that's enough of that unless--

THERRY: See, we really should differentiate between the two, because when we speak of games, we are really speaking of within those limitations that were set.

DUNCAN: See I never knew that until right now.

THERRY: Okay. Now you know.

DUNCAN: So how about this, going back to the definition of reality.

THERRY: Reality is still the same, regardless of what level you are in. It is the interaction between that which is real and that which is not real.

DUNCAN: Right, but within that, within these things, what about reality. It says that illusions are the components of a game.

THERRY: Right.

DUNCAN: --well in which sense is the word game being used there?

THERRY: In the proper sense.

DUNCAN: Well both are proper.

THERRY: Yeah, but there are games on this level and there are games on that level. And if you want to differentiate between the two, you can call one games and the other illusions, because it all depends on what point of view that are you are looking at. If you're on this particular level and you're looking at the A Happenings that occur on other levels, they have to be called illusions and the ones that you're on here is games. And so it is vice versa. You have to use the awareness factor as your point of reference. It is obvious that if you're laying here and thinking about something that occurred here or in an alter-reality, because from that particular reality's reference point, its not real. Therefore its an illusion. The only thing that is real to you is the things that you have done while awake, in that particular awareness. Can you see that?

DUNCAN: Yeah, but I don't know what that has to do with the question I asked.

THERRY: It has to do with how you determine if you want to call one a game and another an illusion. A game has to with absolute reality to you. Well things that occur in another awareness are not absolute reality, even though they are within the sphere of reality. In an A Happening or something, you want to be able to differentiate between the two. What happens to you in common reality as opposed to what happens to you in an alter-reality makes a big difference.

DUNCAN: Right.

THERRY: Well if you want to talk about the two of them, you have to have labels, so that when you are talking about just one of them, you don't get them mixed up with one another. If you're on this level, you call everything that happens on this level games, and everything that happens on other realities, illusions. Obviously, if you're in another thing then it switches again.

DUNCAN: Yeah, I think I can--

THERRY: --But in the grand total, its all games.

DUNCAN: Its all games. Well, I was going to ask you about, what is the relationship between values and purposes, are they synonymous or are they closely related.

THERRY: No, first go and look it up in a dictionary-- what value means and what purpose means. Now that you have looked up the two, re-ask your question if its necessary.

DUNCAN: Well, I guess its not necessary. The only reason I asked to begin with is because I heard you tell somebody in a conversation to look toward their purpose why he values his life source.

THERRY: No.

DUNCAN: No?

THERRY: No. Values are always going to determine purpose. You chose one's purpose according to one's values. I guess you might say that values are a steering current for purpose.

DUNCAN: Alright.

THERRY: Okay.

DUNCAN: We might as well leave that one alone.

THERRY: Which one?

DUNCAN: Language.

THERRY: Why, what's wrong with language?

DUNCAN: Well, I understand it, but obviously there's a lot more to it than this. So I don't know, I guess its so--I don't have a need for it now...

THERRY: Okay.

DUNCAN: Alright, it says here that the Golden Scribe's function is evoked here by the GreatForce.

THERRY: Yeah.

DUNCAN: It is the same law that evokes its presence that keeps its tally.

THERRY: Yeah.

DUNCAN: So what does that mean, that the GreatForce keeps Karma's tally?

THERRY: No. It means that there are certain laws that are put into effect, and those laws are what govern the Universe. Its cause and effect.

DUNCAN: Right. How about this one. The measure of how the Golden Scribe marks the stubbornness of your heart, to that measure does the mind travel to the hell of its own thoughts. But why is it the stubbornness of your own heart?

THERRY: What else would you call stubbornness?

DUNCAN: What else would I call stubbornness?

THERRY: Yeah, would it be stubbornness if it would be somebody else's heart to keep you trapped?

DUNCAN: No, but that's not what I asked you what else would you call stubbornness? I was asking why you would call it stubbornness at all.

THERRY: What else would you call it?

DUNCAN: I don't know.

THERRY: If you insist on doing things your way, what would you call it?

DUNCAN: Ignorance. To me there's something else--

THERRY: No, no, no, no. Ignorance is the lack of knowledge. A behavior implies the insistence on an action, the insistence on a chosen behavior. If that isn't stubbornness, then what is it?

DUNCAN: Well, I don't know, I'm having trouble, because--.

THERRY: Well, read the original statement.

DUNCAN: To the measure that the Golden Scribe marks the stubbornness of your own heart, to that measure does the mind trap itself into the hell of its own thoughts.

THERRY: If you investigate that it implies that you also have other information but you elect to disregard it and go your own way. If that isn't stubbornness then what the hell is it?

DUNCAN: That's what I was going to ask you about when you started talking about stubbornness, I was going to ask you to tell me if this implies that everybody knows that, either Karmically, what they are doing is wrong, or else it wouldn't be stubbornness if you didn't know that.

THERRY: It has to do with stubbornness.

DUNCAN: So do people in fact know when they are doing wrong?

THERRY: Yes. There is a point however that they shoot down their truths. There becomes a point where because they have shot down their truths, the lie becomes their truth and that is when the mind is already trapped. Prejudice is an example of it. When an individual first acquires the prejudice, he knows its wrong, but mama does it and papa does it so its okay, but he really knows its wrong. But he destroys that knowledge and throws it away because mama and papa does it and they want to be like mama and papa. They want to be like the people around them, so from that point on they don't know anymore. At that point, the mind is already trapped.

DUNCAN: So before the mind is trapped, there is something innate within individuals?

THERRY: Yes.

DUNCAN: Okay. Alright, well here it says, Understand that there are three judgments to the Walk of Predestiny. I'm having problems with this, because I thought that it only took twice.

THERRY: No. First is when you think about it.

DUNCAN: Okay.

THERRY: Second is when you do it. And third is when you redo it.

DUNCAN: So its two commissions with respect to whatever level you are talking about and one--

THERRY: Its three.

DUNCAN: Well, I wouldn't consider thinking about it as an act of commission against the level.

THERRY: Yes, I would.

DUNCAN: Why?

THERRY: Because it is.

DUNCAN: So you mean to tell me every time I think about doing something, like say hitting somebody I'm going to actually-- that's as much as a commission as actually going out and hitting somebody?

THERRY: Yeah, except its not on the physical, its on the level of non-mental... Remember, in the FabricTime domain, it is the thought that binds you to your destiny.

DUNCAN: Yeah, that's what I thought.

THERRY: Yeah. But that traps you just as much, only it does so on the mental level. Each unto his own level.

DUNCAN: Okay. Alright, how about this. For surely as he has time, though it is not to his liking, the White Feather of the Ka shall be the implementers of his Maat.

THERRY: Yeah.

DUNCAN: What is the White Feather of the Ka is the Implementers of the Maat?

THERRY: Truth will have its way. You can hide and lie to everybody, but you cannot do it to yourself.

DUNCAN: Well, how about this one. Even to its cloak of travel so shall it be again?

THERRY: You're going to repeat, you're going to find yourself in the same situation again, for the first time.

DUNCAN: Okay, so cloak of travel is just a pictureous way of saying that everything is going to be exactly the same?

THERRY: As you travel through your experiences. Cloak of travel indicates that it might be an hour from now or two weeks from now, twenty years from now or next life. 'Cause you travel through your experiences, through your awareness, through your lives. You're traveling through time as well as space. It's another way of saying that time goes by and you're going to find yourself in the same condition again.

DUNCAN: So tell me why the Continuum of Freedom is a nonemotional amplifier. It's easier for me to understand why Love is, but I'm having a lot of trouble understanding why Freedom is.

THERRY: No not Freedom, the Continuum of Freedom.

DUNCAN: I--what's the problem?

THERRY: There's a difference. See each point along a Continuum becomes a drama or a source for a drama and they have the potentials to illicit amplifiers as opposed to magnifiers. But the continuum itself is a magnifier.

DUNCAN: Why is the Continuum itself a magnifier?

THERRY: Because it has the Wisdom of the whole intrinsically within it.

DUNCAN: Is this for Lesson Two cause I can't figure this out right now.

THERRY: No.

DUNCAN: Okay, let me see this and figure out--fortunately--How about "Till you reach the activity of frequency and the other manifestation is still purely on these levels." Should I read everything as it is?

THERRY: Yes.

DUNCAN: Talking about Astral Projection.

THERRY: Okay.

DUNCAN: By this method there is no dimension that is created within the Universe that cannot be visited within this scope of the LifeForce. Now to my understanding you cannot travel in between one dimension and another to do projection. Is that correct?

THERRY: Correct.

DUNCAN: Then what does this mean, No dimension that will be created that will not be visited within the scope of the LifeForce.

THERRY: It means that the LifeForce is not barred. It knows no barrier, neither alien nor barrier otherwise that hold up barring the LifeForce inside.

DUNCAN: So what does that have to do with individuals practicing Astral travel and/or Projection?

THERRY: The main key is that Astral travel and/or Projection gets its power from the LifeForce/MindForce Pairing. That's why it is capable of warping time and space. The important part here is not the fact that you are dealing with the LifeForce as the Seat of Power. The important part here is the difference between Projection as opposed to Astration. And that simply is that in Projection you never leave your body. Its like having a Magic Eye who can see into all areas. But you, yourself, are never there. So in a sense while you can see into other dimensions, you, yourself, are not there.

DUNCAN: So you actually can?

THERRY: You can see into them but you can't travel there.

DUNCAN: Oh, okay. Well, for that matter you're not allowed to travel in this dimension either are you?

THERRY: You're not traveling anywhere. You're simply seeing into it. Its where time and space moves before you as opposed to you moving through time and space.

DUNCAN: Okay, so you can do both--warp time and space?

THERRY: Yeah. But the difference is that its not you. Its the laws governing the LifeForce.

DUNCAN: In Astration its you?

DUNCAN: So what is it? In a projection the LifeForce/MindForce Pairing just paints a picture for you?

THERRY: Yes.

DUNCAN: How about this--only with Love can the Universe limit or exchange the components of Karma.

DUNCAN: What level of love are we talking about?

THERRY: Love only has one level. It just is.

DUNCAN: So if you don't have love you're not going to be able to change your automatic pilot?

THERRY: If you don't strive for it, yeah.

DUNCAN: So all that's necessary is that you are striving for it?

DUNCAN: But the individual himself doesn't have to recognize that, he just has to be willing to change more or less for a better way of life--

THERRY: Exactly.

DUNCAN: I got a question. When we talk about people's hearts and what's in their heart and so forth, are we talking about their heart of their consciousness or what?

THERRY: All levels of it.

DUNCAN: Excuse me?

THERRY: All levels of it. We're talking about them, themselves. The continuum of the walk of freedom via the walk of Predestiny and vice versa.

DUNCAN: So what's the difference between somebody's heart and somebody's mind?

THERRY: One is the walk of freedom and the other is the walk of Predestiny.

DUNCAN: And which one is which?

THERRY: You figure it out.

DUNCAN: I would say that the mind is the walk--of Predestiny.

DUNCAN: Alright. I have to think about it for a while.

DUNCAN: Okay. How about this? Arkashea for quite some time will be scattered. But when it is Arkashea's time for each individual, the world shall unite. What does that mean for each individual?

DUNCAN: I don't know. Maybe I don't have the language for it?

THERRY: It will be a major shift in the awareness of the world. There will be a very big separation. There will be a very big gathering. All the false gods will die.

DUNCAN: Well, I understand what you are saying but I don't know how it relates for each of these things for each individual.

THERRY: Because you have to remember that there is going to be a judgment there. Is not a judgment made against each individual?

DUNCAN: Yes.

THERRY: So can you not see how it applies?

DUNCAN: Well, maybe I'll look up the word each.

THERRY: Okay. Go look it up. So is it not saying that individually the entire people of the world will be judged?

DUNCAN: Yes, I suppose so.

THERRY: What do you mean I suppose so?

DUNCAN: I don't know. To me, it seems like you're using the first each to mean Arkashea's time.

THERRY: No. Well, everything has to do with Arkashea's time in that. What is your point of confusion?

DUNCAN: I don't know what that means--each for each individual.

THERRY: Read the whole thing. See you're stripping things apart to such a great degree that there's no continuity so obviously you can't understand.

DUNCAN: Arkashea, for quite some time will be scattered. But when Arkashea's time comes, each for each individual, the law shall unite.

THERRY: So isn't that saying each law for each individual?

DUNCAN: Uhhm.

THERRY: Is that not another way of saying, for each individual, each law shall unite?

DUNCAN: I guess it could be, but I didn't see it that way because laws is after each, so each always refers to it.

THERRY: So, its a different way of talking. Remember that is a very old manuscript.

DUNCAN: Okay, I'm finished up with that. But that was the point of confusion or--

THERRY: You have to bear in mind that the stuff that I've given you is very old and it comes from different languages.

DUNCAN: Okay.

THERRY: So you have to accept that difference.

DUNCAN: Alright, but I just didn't realize that that was how it was supposed to be--

THERRY: 'Cause it's written so that it has many levels to it.

DUNCAN: Alright. Now how about this law. On the face of the six points shall I sleep.

THERRY: Yeah, that stuff is for Lesson Two.

DUNCAN: How about peace being one of the prime components that crosses the barrier between Dialusion and illusion?

THERRY: Yeah.

DUNCAN: Actually there isn't as much here as I thought there was. Either that or I'll just pick one of them here?

THERRY: Uh-huh.

DUNCAN: Alright, how about Man being the Second Manifestation of the Trinity and the Second Manifestation of the Powers of--

THERRY: No.

DUNCAN: Okay. Well, it says here, take into your heart the Precepts of Understanding.

THERRY: Yeah.

THERRY: They are relative to the situation and the persons for their purposes and that.

DUNCAN: Okay. Okay, it says take into your heart the burden of time's wisdom.

THERRY: Yeah.

THERRY: Most wisdom.

DUNCAN: Really.

THERRY: Yeah.

DUNCAN: I don't really understand that. It seems like to me that the way you gain wisdom is that you go through some kind of interaction or something.

THERRY: And where does that interaction occur? Is not you LifeForce limited to the space of common reality?

DUNCAN: In both time and space.

THERRY: But it's --no, its not through both.

DUNCAN: Its not?

DUNCAN: I'm still having trouble understanding what is space's wisdom.

DUNCAN: Right.

THERRY: Did that answer your question?

DUNCAN: Uh-hmm. Well, I have my own ideas. I don't know if they are correct, but at least I have an idea now.

THERRY: What is that?

THERRY: Right. Because in most things its a cooperation. Its time and space.

DUNCAN: Right.

THERRY: Although that is really called space's wisdom, not time.

DUNCAN: Cause obviously time is going to have to be inclusive.

DUNCAN: Okay.

THERRY: Okay. A perfect example of that other one, time's wisdom, is the readiness for change as a matter of time. That becomes time's wisdom.

DUNCAN: Doesn't that also depend on--

THERRY: Its independent of space.

DUNCAN: Well, I mean I understand that, but I'm trying to understand why. It doesn't seem that it would be independent of space.

DUNCAN: But I thought that all those things were predicated on however much crap you've put up with or however much pain, whatever you want to call it, and so on and so forth.

DUNCAN: Alright, this "What If/But" syndrome. What if says, make sure that are some hidden windows scattered about.

THERRY: Yes.

DUNCAN: And those hidden windows are all in automatic pilot?

THERRY: Yes.

DUNCAN: What about what are they.

THERRY: That's not for this lesson.

DUNCAN: And then in discussing that it says, Illusions retain the focus of not one but many. All seemed to experience the diversity of free-will. What is the significance of seemed?

THERRY: Go look it up. Repeat.

DUNCAN: I'm still having trouble understanding why they chose to use the word seemed.

THERRY: Why? What would you want them to use? What other label in your language that would satisfy that?

DUNCAN: Well, I don't know, because--

THERRY: Are you not--

DUNCAN: I mean, I understand the definition of the word, but I just don't understand--

THERRY: Are you not trying to put limitations there that don't exist.

DUNCAN: I don't know, perhaps I am. Why does it seem that I am?

THERRY: Is that not multilevel?

DUNCAN: Yes.

THERRY: What other words could you use that would imply multilevel?

DUNCAN: I don't know.

THERRY: Is there other words in your English language that can do the same job?

DUNCAN: Appear?

THERRY: Isn't that the same as the definition of seems?

DUNCAN: Yeah.

THERRY: So then why would you use the word appear there? What difference between the word seem and appear?