Arkashean Q&A Session -- 131
SHELLY: Does...Do all entities do this out of necessity, 'cause it's kind of the only way you could go out?
THERRY: First of all, they don't do it out of necessity. They do it stemming from a mutual satisfaction of needs, which then blossoms into love, which then creates an unconditional.
SHELLY: Is that common then?
THERRY: No, unfortunately.
SHELLY: It's not?
THERRY: It's nowheres near common enough.
SHELLY: I'm surprised at that.
THERRY: The world would be a far better world if it would be.
SHELLY: Hmmm.
THERRY: As a matter of fact, unconditionals are rare, that's what makes them so beautiful.
CLARE: They're having riots in Germany now.
THERRY: Riots or demonstrations?
CLARE: Riots. Yeah. Hmmpf! Can't believe it.
SHELLY: I'm surprised about Germany, it's because of the Nazis.
THERRY: Well, we had a shot from around the world, so we might as well as have a beating that is right around the world.
ANNE: What was the shot that was from around the world?
THERRY: The shot at Fort Center that began the actual Civil War.
SHELLY: That was the shot that was right around the world?
THERRY: Yeah.
LAUREN: I thought it was when...wasn't it when they assassinated the Kai...Arch Duke before World War I? Or was it the shot...?
THERRY: No, no, no. The shot that which was right around the world was the Civil War. You're talking about something differently. You're talking about when the Kaiser...
LAUREN: And they killed some Arch Duke in a carriage and then started World War I and it didn't...
THERRY: Yeah...
FRANK: "This world is a lot of bullshit," you know.
THERRY: Not necessarily. The Devil's Advocate makes assumptions even before the questions are asked. The first assumption is it's not my fault.
FRANK: Not my fault for what?
THERRY: Whatever it is. No, no, even before the question is asked, it ain't going to be my fault.
FRANK: Ah!!!
THERRY: See, the second assumption is, "I don't believe you, you're going to have to prove it to me!" See, those are the basic assumptions on that method, for anyone who approaches with the Devil's Advocate Method. You know, it's a confrontative method rather than a sharing method but it's just as valid. The only difference is, the Devil's Advocate Method is war, warlike. You attack the individual rather than gain information.
FRANK: Still, it's one step in the process there.. I'll skip to my question, right, which was, I was listening to all that last night and she was... and they were all looking at this whole world, I tell you, like something confusing and unbearable, you know...and part of that was disturbing.
THERRY: Again, you can't necessarily fault a person because of the manner in which they chose to ask questions, because they can only ask questions based upon the needs that they have, based upon their feeling and based on the degree to which they normally accept responsibility for their own actions. Now, you gotta remember that anyone who even begins to ask questions, already has a whole history of religion and everything telling them, somebody already paid the price for you, so it should be free. So you can't accept or just gloss over that and have somebody think, "Well hell, if somebody already paid the price for me, why is this? How come that?" It's a confrontative method. "Somebody is lying, somebody is fooling me. If somebody already paid the price, why do I have to do all of this!" While they're thinking process doesn't think all of this out, it's a cycle and that's the Devil's Advocate method. "I don't believe you, period. You're a liar because he already paid the price. This is supposed to be free." So instead of looking at the information, they attack the speaker.
FRANK: Ahah!
CLARE: [Chuckle]
THERRY: It's because of their feeling. They're feeling trapped, they're feeling put upon. They're feeling cheated.
FRANK: That was my question. How come they're feeling...I guess it's a stupid question, how come they feel so trapped? I tell you last night when I was listening to this discussion I felt like...I felt like...
THERRY: But see if you have...
FRANK: ...it was a huge drag...there was nothing positive. I mean happiness is something that doesn't exist, you know.
THERRY: Well, no. I can accept the fact that you saw it from that point. But if you see it from the point of, if you begin something with the premise of it's supposed to be free, then the responsibility's not mine and from that point on, anything that happens is against my will. So with that outlook, what can you have except traps? But if you take it from the other point and say, "No you're wrong. Nobody paid from it. That's bullshit! You're responsible for what you do." Well then your outlook has to be different but if you still insist that somebody has paid for it, then it doesn't matter what the question or what the situation, you're not going to feel right about being here. The fact that you are here ain't going to be acceptable to you. Does that answer why people choose the way they do?
FRANK: Yeah-h-h-h.
THERRY: Again, because they choose the Devil's Advocate, that doesn't mean that they're seeking any less. It's simply a confrontative method. When you respond to them you have to accept that they're going to look at you like an asshole, that's before anything begins!
CLARE: [Laugh]
THERRY: So you're going to have to justify yourself to them even before a question is asked. I mean that's built into the method. So if you understand that that's one of the methods available and since it is available and all people are going to use it, you take that into account and just figure, hey, that's part of the method and you don't take it personally, you just let it roll off. If they accept the information, fine then they lose it, if they don't, who cares, it's their ass not yours, since ultimately, they are responsible for their own lies and they are responsible for maintaining a shield around the wisdom that they want. The sadness is that they have a tendency to blame anybody and everything but themselves when it happens.
FRANK: Uh-hmm.
THERRY: Does that help you understand?
FRANK: I feel like the answer is mostly things that we have been talking about whether you're not physically there, which is my question. Which is not really my question. But everything that you said is that one point that implies that attitude that I feel is not basically mine, you know. I tell you last night I walked out here and I felt like that it was so striking that negative stuff that they wouldn't be able to be happy just because you smell a flower or anything.
THERRY: That's correct. That's correct.
FRANK: That's terrible!
THERRY: It may be terrible but it is a lifestyle that exists on the planet and you can't fault anybody for using what's here.
FRANK: Well, I'm not faulting anybody, I'm just ...
THERRY: Yeah.
FRANK: Well, you know...
THERRY: See there's one advantage - they may be pissed off but at least they're asking questions, which is a helluva a lot more than many, many people. They are many people who're equally as pissed off but they're not asking questions, they're fighting.
FRANK: Oh!
THERRY: So the fact that they're asking questions...it doesn't matter that they're calling me an asshole or whatever, I mean I take that for granted anyway.
FRANK: That you are an asshole?
CLARE: [Chuckle]
THERRY: No, I take it for granted that even though it might appear that it's me personally that they're fighting or the truth of it is it's not, because it doesn't matter who they were asking the questions, it would be the same. The premise is, hey, they're in pain and it's far more important to simply respond to the question and ignore the war.
CLARE: Is that what it feels like? That we were attacking you?
THERRY: No, not for me. I mean he got the impression by sitting there looking at it, listening. But that is the method of the Devil's Advocate - you always attack the person who you're asking the question from because the method basically is that everything sucks and it's not my fault. So when you ask a question, the basic underlying impression is, "Who the duck are you? How come? What gives you the right to say!" But yet they still ask the questions because they still get the answers. And if the questions ring true in their minds they'll bitch, they'll still try to prove it wrong but at least they have something to go with. So it's still more important to respond to the question. At least that will change the ...give them something to change with and understand with and then in time they will stop using the Devil's Advocate method. Whereas I just immediately took offense to the war and dealt with that, then we'd be dealing with my ego, not their concerns. So to me, I don't give a damn to what method people use...It's their method, it's their information.
ANNE: You never respond...?
THERRY: I never respond to war.
ANNE: ...to a question being posed one way as opposed to...?
THERRY: I respond to what's in your mind and what's in your heart, not to the words that you use. Because it is possible for you to ask one question today and then ask the exact same question tomorrow and get two different answers based upon what's in your mind or based upon what you're feeling. So if you're high and dry in your mind and you're real happy and everything is positive and you ask me, "What's the meaning of life?" Well I'm apt to tell you, it is for you to learn to grow and to come to know the goodness of all of creation and then the following day if you're low and you're pissed off, whatever, you ask me, "The meaning of life?" then I'm apt to respond, it's for you to learn to get off your ass and start taking responsibility for what you do. So whatever response I give, it depends upon where you're at at the moment that you ask the question. So you could conceivably get different answers to the same question depending on where you are at the moment.
ANNE: You never respond in a way that you believe would be more beneficial and later on you might say, "Nah, it wasn't!"?
THERRY: Well see, you have to bear in mind that there are levels to truth. And you handle that, by what is, by what you need at the moment. Obviously, if you have cancer, let's say and you come up to me and say, "Blah, blah, blah, blah" and I know that you're really concerned with one thing and I give you the answer that you need now, tomorrow you'll be able to handle something better. I won't lie but I will respond to what you need, not what you want. So based on that, you could ask the same question, 5 or 6 times and get different answers. 'Cause all of it is based on what you need for the moment, whatever you need in order to help you understand. The whole basis of everything that I do, is first, I never tell a person what to do with their lives. I don't care what they do with their lives. Secondly, I never take responsibility for anybody's emotions. I don't care about their emotions. If they want to spend the next twenty years pissed off, who the hell cares? It's their energy, not mine. Thirdly, I never give you what you want, I don't care what you want. If you're going to come up to my store, then I'm going to give you what you need. So based on what you asked the question for that moment, you'll get what you need for that moment and I always have one purpose in mind - to help you understand your situation as it is now. And to help you take responsibility for it. That's the only purpose I serve. If each individual can understand the how and the why they're in the now and if they can understand to accept responsibility for being there, then they're better equipment to take care of whatever comes in the future.
ANNE: Well, I guess when it's a trust, it's a trust issue...
THERRY: No, not from my point.
ANNE: No, no, no, no.
THERRY: It's a trust issue from the person who asked the question.
ANNE: Absolutely.
THERRY: But see, it need not be, simply because, in the on-start, I tell everybody don't believe what I say, just because I say it, test it.
ANNE: Test it.
THERRY: Take the law and go out there and test it. If it suits you, then I don't want to hear," Therry says" anymore.
ANNE: Uh-hmmm.
THERRY: Remember, I remember, I told you that from the very, very, very beginning. I just give you law and patterns. What you do with it, I don't give a damn.
ANNE: You said when you look at someone you see a pattern, you don't see...
THERRY: Specifics.
ANNE: You don't see linearly.
THERRY: No, I don't, I see fabrically.
ANNE: So if you look at an individual, to use myself as an example, if you look at me and you see it and I say to you, "Help me understand by letting me know that that is so..."
THERRY: Well see to me, I'll accept your words but first let me explain the difference between linearly and fabrically. Linear has built in judgments, fabrically has no judgments. So if I look at something linear, then I have to look at it in terms of cause and effect, blame and fault, good and bad, etc. I never use that...because I don't believe that anyone should make that judgment against anyone. So anytime anybody asks me a question, the very first thing I do, I go out of linear and go into fabric. Immediately then, it's this gave birth to that, might cause this, which in the future may help that. There's no such thing as good and bad, there's no such thing as right and wrong. There's no such thing as up and down. None of that, there's no directional judgments of any kind. It's simply cause and effect, nothing else.
ANNE: Does the fabric mean that you can see my story?
THERRY: Yeah. I can see...what I read is your soul.
ANNE: Okay.
THERRY: So you could sit here and fabricate everything until you're blue in the face, you'll never know that I think you're a ducking liar, because I don't make that judgment. There is no judgment.
ANNE: Why would you think that then?
THERRY: That's the point, I don't when you're in fabrically, but if I were in linear, I might because it doesn't make sense.
ANNE: But you don't have know...
THERRY: But fabrically there is no such type of judgments.
ANNE: So you're saying linearly is not where you work from?
THERRY: No, I never work linearly.
ANNE: It's at your disposal but that's not...
THERRY: I never, never work from that.
ANNE: Okay.
THERRY: I get out of linear because it's too judgmental, it's too emotional.
ANNE: So, I think what I'm asking you about then, is when we sit around and talk about a concept, if I ask a question concerning a concept, my question is, why doesn't it come back as applicable to Anne?
THERRY: And my response is always, because Anne doesn't like to look at things the way they are. She likes to color them. There is a law that you change the commandments so that you can follow them, so that they can suit you. Anne doesn't always look at things the way they really are. She converts, she changes things, she implies, she assumes and then when it fits exactly what she wants, then it will ring a bell.
ANNE: Is it wrong?
THERRY: Again, you're asking me a linear question. Right and wrong, I couldn't care less about.
ANNE: No, no...
THERRY: If it's right for you, then use it.
ANNE: Yeah...
THERRY: If it's not right for you...
ANNE: Yeah, but in terms of the law?
THERRY: Well, it's not the best way...
ANNE: Is it a correct use or not correct use?
THERRY: Again in the linear configuration, those questions don't apply.
ANNE: In terms of the law?
THERRY: It still doesn't apply.
ANNE: Is it a bastardization of the law?
THERRY: No, it's simply one method that is available. It's not the best method to use because where's the logic in seeking change but converting the information that you're receiving because you don't like to hear it... It's sort of like the guy who goes...
ANNE: You can't see me.
THERRY: "Wait, wait, wait! I can't see what's happening!" I mean, why bother asking if you're in fact not going to look at something the way it is, you want to change it to suit you.
ANNE: Well, there's a bizillion words to communicate, right?
THERRY: Yeah.
ANNE: So isn't it more effective if you use the words that the person can take in?
THERRY: No.
ANNE: Why?
THERRY: Because sometimes it supports the negative games that they chose to play and I don't want to play that game. Communication is a lot like statistics. You can lie like hell, without really not lying. And I don't want to play that game. If I use words that you want to hear...
ANNE: Uh-uh.
THERRY: Then, you're not getting a true answer to the questions you asked.
ANNE: Not the words I want to hear but using the words that I understand to explain...
THERRY: They're one and the same.
ANNE: How is that?
THERRY: Because any individual who asked the question, already has a predetermined answer that they want and they're automatically going to try to convert to that. But I won't play that game. My situation is, you ask a question, something comes to me, I give you what comes to me. I add nothing and I subtract nothing. If you don't like what comes, the hell do I care. Don't let the door hit you on the ass on the way out! All I can do is respond to what comes. And I think the Universe knows a little bit more about what you need, than I do. So I'm simply a long distance phone call. I made that clear from the very beginning too. Now, history has already proven that I have a 95% accuracy in terms of conversions. There's always going to be some, because we are human.
ANNE: You lost me.
THERRY: Well, anytime you speak or anytime there is any communications from any level to level, you're talking to humans. They think differently so there's going to be some conversion, okay?
ANNE: Uh-hmmm.
THERRY: History has proven thus far that I've been able to achieve 95% purity. But that's 5% conversion still so when somebody asks me a question, whatever comes out of me is 95% accurate. The other 5% I don't know where it lies and I don't know how far it's off. I don't even care. So I can understand that when I give a response how they'll easily change it because hey, I know I've got 5% change myself. So who am I to start bitching because somebody else converts. 'Cause there is no judgment in parallel. In fabric thinking there is no judgment.
ANNE: Where I get confused is in....what makes your listening different than anyone else who would listen in the same way and absorb the same thing and be able to give back something that is...?
THERRY: Okay, first of all, whenever somebody communicates to me, the first thing I do is strip away all of the emotions, because normally they're not worth anything. They only amplify and confuse. So once the emotions are stripped from the communiqué...
ANNE: Mine or yours?
THERRY: Yours. When I get into the fabric nature, I don't have any emotions.
ANNE: Okay.