The Absence versus the Presence Q&A Page 4

GILLIAN: Like MARK said before I didn't understand why the Affinity Factor was put in this particular...I mean I know the Affinity Factor, you know, exists in Creation...it's a law of Creation but I didn't understand the relationship between the Presence and the Absence, you know.

THERRY: The Affinity Factor comes into being when Mankind is created.

GILLIAN: Okay.

THERRY: It is the Force that guarantees that your neighbor is not going to pay for something that you've done. You don't punish your dog because your cat ate your canary. The Affinity Factor claims uniqueness. "Each unto its own kind level for level, deed for deed."

JUAN: I have the same question and that is, so how does that relate to the Absence and the Presence?

THERESA: He said that. He said that the three laws, they all have different phases of cause and effect. And the Affinity Factor, isn't that cause and effect? No?

THERRY: You remember, everything that exists within our reality is not a cardboard static thing. By the nature of the Continuum, it's forever in flux.

MARK: I've looked at Karma as jumping into a pool causing a hole in the pool and therefore the water has to come back in. You know, in that analogy, I'm thinking aloud here, 'cause I've not thought this true, but in that analogy you've created in the Absence which has to be filled by a Presence...

THERRY: In that analogy, the Presence that comes slapping at you, we call it uhh Predestiny.

MARK: Right, but what I'm getting at and I'm thinking out loud, by creating a wake or...

JUAN: A displacement...

MARK: A displacement...if you displace something is there an Absence in there that therefore causes the Affinity Factor to do its thing?

THERRY: I don't think it works that way but if it did, yeah.

[Laughter]

MARK: It's absolutely right, just entirely wrong!

SALLY: I have a question from Julie.

THERRY: Okay.

SALLY: She e-mailed a question. "As the Recursiveness of the Affinity Factor is spoken of later, again fulfilled itself, that which was dual in its nature became triune in its effects. Finally, the first of the great Laws of Creation, "The Creation of the one is in itself the implication of the creation of the other," the first manifestation of Creation, that which would become seed pattern for all Creation, the first level of power, seed for the great force was fulfilled and so the end of the beginning had fulfilled itself. This is the question, "When it says the first level of power, seed for The Great Force," it refers [to the fact] that the Great Force came from that? Or is this a seed that The Great Force used to create? We're asking this because of the above. Oh, we're asking this because the above says, "All that existed was a great Sea of Uncreated Futures within which resided a great dormant force called the Great Force. This Force was said to be asleep." "

THERRY: Yeah that force that was at rest with itself was called Change. Change was not active. You had singularity and there was no difference. Then, for some reason, most likely because of the Affinity Factor, the laws, Change became active and with the activation of Change, physical creation as we know it came into being...the Great Void.

MARK: How can you have inactive Change?

THERRY: Huh?

MARK: How can you inactive Change? It's an oxymoron, right?

THERRY: What can I tell you?

MARLON: I have a question. Didn't you just say that the Affinity Factor came into being with Man?

THERRY: No. The Affinity Factor is the prime Tally Man for man.

MARLON: But now you're saying that the Affinity Factor took...

THERRY: What level are you talking about?

MARLON: Well, I thought we were talking about...

THERRY: Every single level of Creation has its Affinity Factor.

MARLON: Where does it start?

THERRY: Good question.

MARLON: I mean, what's the highest level where there's an Affinity Factor?

AL: It has to be the Absence and the Presence.

THERRY: Correct.

AL: Anytime when something has to follow...must follow or fulfill itself, that's the Affinity Factor.

MARLON: Okay.

AL: Is the Great Force...The Great Force...not a Great Force...is that synonymous with Change? Or is Change just a great force and the Great Force remains something different by it?

THERRY: Well, there's a point of confusion there.

AL: Apparently, yeah.

MARLON: [Chuckle]

THERRY: If you want to think of the force of all forces, the Creator of all that which came forth, then that is The Great Force and that was Change. If you want to think of the power of God or a force we call God, then that is The Great Force. Who came first, the chicken or the egg?

AL: So when we use the word, when you look in the Lexicon and you see The Great Force, it's up to the reader to decide whether you mean Change or whether you mean just the raw power to create everything or it depends on the context or what?

THERRY: Well, I don't think there's any difference. I don't think there's any difference between the raw power to create and Change.

MARK: Doesn't Change have to act upon something that already existed?

THERRY: Yes. But it can't just whimsically do anything.

AL: I have to ask a follow-up question. So, there's like different faces of The Great Force?

THERRY: Yes, many.

AL: So I would not be incorrect to say that Change is one of the faces of The Great Force.

THERRY: Correct.

AL: And likewise, the raw power used to create anything is one of the faces of The Great Force.

THERRY: Correct.

AL: Is Maat one of the faces of The Great Force? Or is that something that belongs strictly to Man?

THERRY: Depends on your definition for Maat.

AL: So that...okay.

MARLON: There's another concept that's talked about here, "Rivers of Creation."

THERRY: Yes.

MARLON: What does that mean?

THERRY: Uhm, that's a metaphor to say a vein of creation.

THERRY: The cause and effect that eventually brings forth stuff.

WARREN: Like the energies just started flowing again.

THERRY: Yeah and like dominoes, once the head domino gets knocked over, cause and effect goes haywire, creates all kinds of different things, on all kinds of different levels. You can also say that that's one of the threads of Creation and you...we follow the thread of Carbon Dimension. First we follow the thread of the Presence, then we descended into the thread of Carbon Dimension, then we descended into the Carbon Universe, then we descended into Carbon Galaxies, then down into the Carbon Star Systems, then down into the Carbon Solar Systems and so on and so forth until finally, we're down into Carbon Planet Earth and there now, we start descending into the thread of life. Once we hit upon Planet Earth, then we now have...Life Force comes into being and with Life Force, automatically Mind Force comes into being. Then we have...we follow the thread where Mind Force and Life Force unites and creates Life as we know it and then we follow the thread of I think it's...I think the next level is uhh...

AL: Live births and egg births...

THERRY: Right.

MARLON: What was that?

THERRY: We follow the live birth and then....That's the way...and since everything's a Continuum, even though we say there was Mind Force and Life Force, that doesn't mean there was a helluva lot of it.

MARLON: [Chuckle]

WARREN: What does that mean?

[Chuckles]

THERRY: Let's just say that very early life wasn't as smart as we hoped it could be, based on our level.

JUAN: Is that answer completed? Is it okay for me to ask another question? I just have one more here. It uhh...I was curious, what does it mean for Man to be divided against itself?

THERRY: Okay. Man had to go from singularity to the duality, males and females. Now, by the law, that which is male is attracted to that which is female. That which is female is attracted to that which is male. That which is male is attracted to that which is male. That which is female is attracted to that which is female and everything in between.

JUAN: That's what that means? Divided against itself?

THERRY: Yes.

JUAN: Okay.

AL: What would happen if we had a Planet and it had matter which didn't have a Mind Force, rocks and water and stuff like that.

THERRY: You have them.

AL: Will sooner or later will it...will it matter, will the Mind Force evolve?

THERRY: If Mind Force already existed on some Planet, no. It all depends at which stage of evolution that Planet's in.

AL: So is it a natural course of affairs for that to happen?

THERRY: In some cases, yes. In some other cases, no, something is missing. Something doesn't...something goes awry and it doesn't happen.

AL: How come we call...why do we make such a big distinction when we call Humans the Twin Species? Isn't any species that has males and females the Twin Species?

THERRY: Not all species are twin species.

AL: Well why are we then?

THERRY: Huh?

AL: Are dogs a twin species?

THERRY: I can't hear you.

AL: Are dogs a twin species?

THERRY: Yes.

AL: How about cats?

THERRY: Yes.

AL: Cows?

THERRY: Yes.

[Chuckles]

MARK: Parameciums?

ELENA: Ant eaters?

TOM: They're some that have both parts though. I think they fertilize themselves.

AL: So anything that has strictly males and females is a Twin Species?

THERRY: Yes.

MIMI: Roaches.

AL: So why do we make such a big distinction about that? Why don't we just call them males and females?

THERRY: Why leave out half of the information that we have?

AL: So when you say Twin Species, it just means that the males and females are in separate bodies?

THERRY: Yes.

AL: Okay.

THERRY: 'Cause remember, there are three parts to each. That's the Triunity Factor. You have the Mental, the Emotional and the Physical. Now on one side of the Continuum, all three parts reside in the same body. On the other side of the Continuum, all three parts reside in the same body, but once you start moving towards the center, it's not true. Now you have physical males, with female emotions, female mannerisms, female shapes, female thought patterns and the reverse is true as well. And you even have situations where the physical body has both male and female. We call them hermaphrodites. And different parts of them are active and different parts of them are not. And in some cases all parts are active.

MARK: Is that a crossed Continuum because it's three different aspects?

THERRY: Yes it follows the law, duality with triune effects. Anything else? Warren, take the roll call, see if anybody has any questions.

WARREN: Sally?

SALLY: No.

WARREN: Adri?

ADRI: No.

WARREN: Tom?

TOM: Nope.

WARREN: Gillian?

GILLIAN: No.

WARREN: Mimi?

MIMI: No.

WARREN: Elena?

ELENA: No.

WARREN: Juan?

JUAN: No.

WARREN: Who else is there?

MIMI: Gina.

GINA: A couple billion, but no.

WARREN: Nope? Marlon? [Chuckle]

MARLON: Well I don't know if this is a good question but can you give more practical applications to your daily life of the Absence and the Presence?

THERRY: [Silence] Experiencing the Absence. And now you're experiencing the Presence. [Loud voice] You had the Absence of Sound, the Presence of Sound. Remember when you're talking about the Absence and the Presence, there's a little box there called "What?" that you have to fill in.

MARK: So it could be a Continuum of Patience versus Frustration on a daily basis?

THERRY: Yes.

WARREN: It's everything. Every moment is filled with Absence and Presence of something. Lots of things. You can't get away from it.

MIMI: So on our level there's no such thing as a constant happiness because the other part of it is, that you have to have some kind of pain. There's no such thing as a one-sided Continuum.

THERRY: What?

MIMI: You can't have constant happiness without having pain, without let's say being disappointed...

THERRY: Let's say unhappiness.

MIMI: Unhappiness. You have to have all unhappiness because you can't have happiness all the time.

THERRY: Correct. Everything's in cycles. If you're happy, that means sooner or later, you're going to be sad.

MARK: So taking from royal lane down to here, when you look at the implication for one is the presence of the other, that's the Absence and the Presence, isn't it? From the royal land of Absence and Presence, if you take a look at the writing, it says the implication of one is the creation of the other - happiness/unhappiness. Is that an application of the Presence versus the Absence?

THERRY: Yes.

AL: You can't have a one-sided coin.

THERRY: There are some things in creation that cannot exist. Like AL said, you can't have a one-sided door. You can't have a one-sided door, you can't have a one-sided door, you can't have a one-sided door.

[Chuckles]

MIMI: Thank God there's the other side.

THERRY: [Chuckle] Let's see you dig a half a hole.

JUAN: I love stuff like that! [Chuckle]

ELENA: Yeah right!

TOM: If it's a ten foot hole and you only dig five feet of it!

THERRY: I can't hear you.

WARREN: Are there any other questions?

TOM: That's legit!

THERRY: I still can't hear you!

TOM: If you set out to dig a ten foot hole and you only dig it five feet, you've dug half a hole.

THERRY: No you didn't. You still have a full hole, you just have a hole of a different dimension that was originally intended.

TOM: Each unto its own kind.

MARLON: Chuckle.

THERRY: Or if you want to play mental masturbation, you can say, "Uh, you have an unfinished hole."

MIMI: M and M for Tom!

WARREN: Any other questions? Alright, we're done!