Amplifiers: Questions and Answers Page 2
SAMANTHA: If we tap into Cosmic Consciousness and there's a great disturbance going on in the Planet, we'd feel that as a...for lack of a better word...negative ripple which wouldn't appear in the State of Love. So could you use that as a divider?
THERRY: No because you brought in something that didn't belong. You would feel a disturbance in the force. But you wouldn't necessarily put a judgment on that disturbance. In order for you to put a judgment and say that the disturbance is either good or bad, then you have to go to Universal Mind.
MARC: In the writing there's a...
THERRY: Wait, wait, she's not finished!
MARC: Oh, I'm sorry!
BARBIE: The second question is...this is the last question, "When a human chooses his individuality, automatically he assumes all of those five Emotions?"
THERRY: Yes, it comes with the package.
BARBIE: Uhm...
THERRY: He has those before he becomes human and his basic task through a series of reincarnations, he negates all of those basic five, he becomes pure again.
JEAN: I don't understand that. I was under the impression that Emotions were part of the physicalness of being human.
THERRY: Well...
JEAN: So how can you have...
THERRY: Yes but no. Uhh... When Life Forms left Singularity, they left because they had those Emotions which were against the tranquility that resided during the Center of Singularity. So when they descended into the Void, they still had all of those Angers if you want to call it. So that when they entered the Soul of Man to become Human, then Boom! Then you're born with those five basic emotions and the task is to negate them.
LENNY: I have a question. You've said that Emotions are the seed for Mobility and that you need Emotions in order to be able to feel truth inwardly...
THERRY: Yeah but we're talking...
LENNY: So then how can you negate them?
THERRY: But wait, wait! We're talking about humans now.
LENNY: Yeah!
THERRY: Now, when I say...I might've misspoken when I said you negate them. What you have to do is negate their control.
LENNY: You control them, they don't control you. You use them as a tool.
THERRY: That's correct.
LENNY: Because they are there as a tool for you to feel truth inwardly as well as for various aspects of Mobility.
THERRY: Correct.
SAMANTHA: So without our emotions, we'd never do anything? We'd just have thoughts all day?
THERRY: You wouldn't necessarily even have thoughts.
SAMANTHA: Right but without them you have no umph or motivation to do anything, no drive...
THERRY: That's correct.
RICKY: At that level that you're talking about, do you need the Emotions to do anything or you need it for Mobility, are you still talking about those five basic emotions or is it some other type of power?
THERRY: Well, when a Life Form becomes human, he carries with it all the baggage that he had. That baggage doesn't stay in one place. It becomes distributed to the different parts of humanity, different parts of the human. It's based on the make-up of the vessel that he descends into. The five basic emotions are so innate a driving force that it's basically a chemical reaction within the individual even though Mind Force is there because of the search for righteousness, our demands for purity, they're basically serving self. They want to see the world the way they want it to be, rather than accept the way the world is evolving.
RICKY: So if I get out of bed...I wake up and I decide that I want to brush my teeth, that means I either have Fear, Greed, Loneliness, Death or the other one or else I wouldn't be able to move from the First Thought of being awake on to the next one of wanting to brush my teeth?
THERRY: Well, no. Uhh, in that condition there, you're not talking about the basic five, you're talking about a Condition.
RICKY: And what power moves...I mean, what is the nature of that condition or what is the nature of the power that I need to move from those thoughts, if it's not the basic five?
THERRY: Well, it's still your Emotions, but the Emotions are not a driving force from the negative point. They're a driving force from a positive point. For you to learn to go brush your teeth, then there's reason for it, there's a cause attached to it and the effect from that cause is what drives you to go brush your teeth. If you don't care for them, you'll lose them. So it's a case of values, a case of well-being.
MARC: So would Fear be present there because you could lose your teeth if you don't brush your teeth it?
THERRY: Yes, but it's not in control.
LENNY: And Greed could be there because you're taking care of yourself?
THERRY: Yes, but it's not in control.
SAMANTHA: It could be Fear in control if you're afraid that your girlfriend is not going to kiss you or like you or make fun of you if your breath smells real bad. So therefore you're doing that from Fear or humiliation or protection ...
THERRY: Okay, uhm you brought in something else now. It is possible for you to offer any individual to experience Fear and never know that they are experiencing Fear.
LENNY: That person could be a perfectionist their whole life, be on time for everything, do everything just right but it's fear-based. And no one will ever see it and they'll never know it.
THERRY: Correct.
LENNY: Because of their Fear of rejection and everything and other aspects.
THERRY: Correct. It's on such a low level that it's unconscious.
MARC: When those initial entities split off from Singularity you said they had angers. Now in the writing it said that uhm, I'm paraphrasing..."Loneliness was a cause to descend into Maya."
THERRY: Yes.
MARC: So in order for one of those that we're calling "Angels" who've separated from Singularity to descend into Maya...
THERRY: Well in order to take care of the anagram that is often mistaken as Christians, instead of calling them Angels, let's say, Life Forms...
MARC: Okay. So the Life forms that split off from Singularity through what we're calling it Anger, I don't know if we're calling it Anger here...I don't know if it's dissonance or whatever it is, do they...do those Life Forms have to experience Loneliness to come into the Soul of Man?
THERRY: Yeah Loneliness would be the driving force forcing them to go into the Great Void. If you think for a minute, every child who feels rejection will try to run away. The rejection that he feels is not the force that drives it. It's the Loneliness, not being able to be close to what they conceive what their true center is.
MARC: Okay. So, I'm a little confused now. Does that mean that... Okay. What caused them to split from Singularity?
THERRY: Loneliness.
MARC: Okay and...
THERRY: First, you have to understand that Loneliness doesn't exist in a vacuum. It has to be built based on a lot of Expectations and Demands. Once you separate yourself from your group, for the lack of a better word, the cause of the separation is because of the Continuums of Demands that you want to place - you don't want change, you don't want this, you don't want that; it should be this, it should be that and "What are you doing to me? How dare you!" Well, these Angers meld together and the further you go away from what is your true Source, you begin to experience the Loneliness and that's the force that drives you away 'cause Loneliness is the only force that can destroy the Soul.
MARC: That was my next question. How is it that Loneliness can be the method to actually cause the Soul to die? What does that mean and what are the implications of that?
THERRY: I don't know if that can answer that because that's on the periphery of what I understand. I can only tell you that if you look at the History of Mankind, many people just die because of Loneliness. Like let's say a couple's been married for fifty years, one of them dies and sure enough, within six months, the other one dies. It's because of Loneliness. I can only infer that it's a similar pattern. When you're separated from what you believe your source is.
MARC: Does that mean that...from Loneliness, for the Soul to die that means a record of everything you've ever done or felt or whatever, is now abolished or does that mean it's left and you go back to Singularity?
THERRY: No, you don't go back to Singularity unless you go through the Soul of Man.
MARC: So what does it mean for the Soul to die?
THERRY: They've decided that there's no hope. They've decided that it doesn't matter what they think, what they feel, their Source will never accept them again. So without any possibilities of going back to their Source, there's no reason for being...
MARC: Can they...
THERRY: So they just uncreate themselves.
MARC: And I guess it's possible.
THERRY: It is quite possible. It happens fairly often.
JEAN: And they don't reincarnate?
THERRY: No, because there's nothing to reincarnate. They uncreate themselves.
JEAN: Where does the energy go?
THERRY: Back to the pool of creative...
BARBIE: Like do they become Elementals or they just...
THERRY: No, they don't exist anymore!
TONY: Yeah but how do they just release themselves from all their Karmic Debt?
THERRY: What?
TONY: How do they release themselves from all of their Karmic Debt because of this...you know, these overwhelming moments?
THERRY: There's only one quick release to all your debts and that's Non-existence. Now, not all Life Forms will reach that State. Most Life Forms will continue to strive to change either using the Devil's Advocate or the State of Understanding. But there are some who have gone...their pain has driven them to the point of absurdity and it's a basic "What's the point?" and they just uncreate themselves.
TONY: I don't understand how they would have the power to do that. Isn't that like us playing God or something, you know?
THERRY: Most people play God.
TONY: Right and I was under the impression that you really can't. It's kinda like a pompous thing.
THERRY: Of course. That's not true. We have that power.
MARC: It seems against Law.
SAMANTHA: Yeah...
THERRY: No, it's not.
MARC: What happens to all that Karma you've incurred?
THERRY: What happened to that point of Understanding that the only quick release of all your Karma is non-existence. If you don't exist any more, then it's like you never existed and whatever Karma that you may have incurred doesn't exist anymore.
SAMANTHA: Are you talking about people? Are you talking about beings who've reincarnated because they're under the Alliance of the Rule?
THERRY: We're talking about Life Forms.
SAMANTHA: Life Forms before they crossed the barrier and came into of the Soul of Man? 'Cause once they've entered the Soul of Man, the Alliance of the Rule will not let them not exist.
THERRY: That's not true!
SAMANTHA: It seems contrary to everything.
THERRY: Non-existence will cancel absolutely everything!
SAMANTHA: Yeah that State of Non-existence seems contrary to every single teaching that you can't just undo that which has been created or wipe out Karma or all of that stuff.
THERRY: But you can uncreate yourself!
SAMANTHA: But even if you sit there and decide you're going to go lonely and play the game, you'll sit there and die, but Karma's going to still force you back in to deal with it.
THERRY: Yeah but you're not uncreated under those circumstances. You're still in existence. And as long as you're in existence, the Alliance of the Rule will rule you.
SAMANTHA: Okay, so has anyone ever uncreated?
THERRY: Yes. I'll grant you that it's not very often because most of it, is simply they die rather than uncreate. When the former residents of Singularity who have not entered the Soul of Man, they have a very big power to uncreate themselves.
SAMANTHA: Yeah but that's on the Other Side of the barrier.
THERRY: Yes, but that was his point. That was his question.
SAMANTHA: But on this side of the barrier, it's not highly unlikely.
THERRY: No, on this side of the barrier, the only thing you achieve is the Death process.
SAMANTHA: Okay.
JEAN: Hmmm.
THERRY: You continue to exist. You just jump...you puddle-jump from shell to shell.
SAMANTHA: Right.
TONY: So if you uncreate yourself, does that mean that at some point you can't recreate yourself?
THERRY: No, you don't exist anymore! How can something...
TONY: If that's true, how were you created to begin with? Is it your own something...voice or something?
THERRY: Well, we never got into that.
TONY: Okay.
COREY: Isn't the process of releasing yourself from individuality across the Double Gate, the process of uncreating yourself?
THERRY: No, that's the process of returning to Singularity.
COREY: So even there, on that kind of level, you have [Loneliness] in Singularity?
THERRY: No, you have to be out of Singularity to experience Loneliness.
SAMANTHA: Remember the thing you said uhh last time, was when you popped out of Singularity into the Great Void, you had a choice, you either stay there in an isolated bubble where you're alone or you descended into the Soul of Man to seek out others of your kind and work it all out. So there had to be loneliness in that Void, especially if that's the only place that you can uncreate.
THERRY: Yeah.
SAMANTHA: Okay so there's loneliness in the Void.
THERRY: Yeah that's where it begins because all of your forms of hatreds just meld together to create Loneliness. Because it's a double blind. Your hatreds force you away from the Source that you can't be without. So regardless of how much your hatreds drive you, the desire to be close to your Source outweighs it all so you experience Loneliness.
MARC: How does this type of Loneliness differ from extreme self-pity?
THERRY: Self-pity is a game. Loneliness is a State.
MARC: How does one define basic emotions?
THERRY: Yeah but you're talking about humans. You're talking about once you become a human, then Loneliness becomes one of those basic Emotions.
MARC: So before you're human, Loneliness is a State?
THERRY: By choice, yes. By condition rather.
MARC: And is Anger a State at that point also?
THERRY: By condition, by Free Will.
LENNY: Is Empathy a condition?
THERRY: In some way, yes.
LENNY: And as more of the species develops Empathy, is it a sign that the species is evolving?
THERRY: Yes. That person is at least...
MARC: I feel what you're saying.
"[Laughter]
THERRY: Ricky, questions?
RICKY: No, I think this is it...sufficient.
JEAN: I have a question. In the past you've talked about music being the Language of the Emotions...
THERRY: Yes.
JEAN: How can you use it to learn to control them? Or can you use it to learn to control them?
THERRY: No, music is a form of self-expression but it's the Language of Emotions. It's not logic.
MARC: Can you use music to manipulate the Emotions like this to let's say guide them into a State or place them in a State?
THERRY: Yes.
LENNY: You stated once that music was one of the windows.
THERRY: Yes.
SAMANTHA: So they don't uncreate country music?
"[Laughter]
LENNY: Next life! Hank Williams!
MARC: In her case it's cortisone.
"CORA: Yeah right!
MARC: I have another question. It has to do with the Emotion called Death because it's...I've kinda got it but it doesn't really look like I really have it. So it is the ending of something?
THERRY: Yes.
MARC: Okay, so the ending of something is coming up and the feeling that I feel, is that Loneliness?
THERRY: No entirely.
LENNY: Well, I have a question connected to that because in the past when we've had to deal with individuals who have died who have spoken of the Force of Death and that until you actually experience the loss of a close person...of somebody and you may feel that force of Death, you have no experience of Death. But you're not referring at that time to the Emotion Death? Are you referring...
THERRY: Yes we are.
LENNY: You are? Well this is...Well at least in my experience with reviewing these dialogues, it had to do with the actual shutting down of the body of an individual and the force that was...
THERRY: Yes, that's the Death process.
LENNY: You called it the force of Death.
THERRY: Yeah but it's the Death Process, 'cause remember the force "Death," there are many things involved in it besides the shutting down of the shell. There's the rekindling of all your hatreds all of your Demands..
LENNY: What if you have nothing to do with the person who's dying but you feel something very strong at the time of your death?
THERRY: All you're feeling is the disturbance in the force.
LENNY: And their exiting?
THERRY: Well, they're making a basic change. They're going from Alpha to Beta and that creates a disturbance in Cosmic Force.
SAMANTHA: Getting back to Marc's question...The death of ...say you're having a tooth ache or something, the pain goes away, it's the death of that pain but you'll probably end up in Happiness rather than Loneliness.
THERRY: Yes.
SAMANTHA: It depends on what...
THERRY: Yes. As a matter of fact every time you make a change, before that change can occur, it has to go through a mini Death Process because the old must die so the new can establish itself. It's just that humans have become desensitized to it and the only time they're really affected is when it's something that's paramount to them. But it doesn't change the fact that even though you're desensitized to all of these mini deaths, they still go on.
MARC: When a person is contented, is that a...is that one of the five basic Emotions subdued or under that manageable level?
THERRY: It's possible.
MARC: What else is possible?
THERRY: The moment they're not demanding anything from anybody or from existence. For the moment, they're satisfied to be with themselves but that doesn't last very long.
MARC: Can it?
THERRY: Not with humans, no.
SAMANTHA: Under the Continuum, if somebody liked Drama and Pain and the Games of Fear and all that comes along with it, they would be contented when they're in those seemingly bad states so...
THERRY: Yeah they need the wars!
MARC: Alright so contentment's relative for the person's value system.
THERRY: Yes. For a person who lives in war and is contented, it is death for them to go into peace 'cause they no longer have no umph. Their "get up and go" has gone up and went.
JEAN: [Chuckle]
SAMANTHA: Way back when Ricky was mentioning something about...I think you said you have those five states or emotions and you divide them up into different agreements with yourself, based on your personality, your Karma and everything, would that be like creating a Diablo character or something, say you want 10 points here, 2 on this depending on what their function is.
THERRY: Yes.
SAMANTHA: Something...
THERRY: As a matter of fact, in the Lexicon there's an entry that shows you how to graph the creation of something. There's quite a few graphs there. If you can understand or recognize that...those graphs within an individual then you'll know them better than what they know themselves.
MARC: For a person to make a trade-off, of which many trade-offs are made, of course, the Emotion Death has to be with it?
THERRY: Yes, but it's one of the minis that you don't even recognize anymore 'cause you're desensitized to it.