Anubis: Questions and Answers Page 1
THERRY: That it? Okay, let's start with Anubis.
DEAN: Okay, ahh, let us start with you.
ANDREW: My understanding?
DEAN: Yes.
ANDREW: Let's see. I think the entry was pretty clear about the Anubis part and the As-phyx...how do you pronounce it?
DIRK: A-sphyx.
DEAN: A-sphyx.
ANDREW: A-sphyx. Uhm, there were a few things when we got into A Happening and A Situation towards the very end, uhm, I had a little trouble understanding. As well as there was a part in there that "Emotions had feelings" which doesn't sound proper nomenclature so I need updating on that or more information on that. Other than that I thought it was pretty clear.
DEAN: As I understand Anubis as a symbolic representation of the Gate Keeper of Death and that, you know, obviously it goes back to Egyptian times and predates Egyptian times, which most people I think on Earth don't associate with, you know, previous to Egypt. But, uhm, you know, you said in the entry that, you know, it's not an entity, it's not a person, it's not a thing. It's uhh an energy...some type of energy of sorts, so I guess that can be somewhat confusing to people and needs some further explanation. But all in all the entry I think is fairly clear but I think it needs to be expanded somewhat.
SANDY: Uhm, well, I'd love to say it's clear, it's just that I don't understand the difference between the Asphyx and what the Ankh does. Uhm, you know, I understand...
THERRY: Asphyx and what?
DEAN: The Ankh.
SANDY: Ankh. It sounds like they're doing more or less the same thing so I'm kinda of unclear where the division of labor ends for one and begins for the other. And also, uhm I was a little bit confused that it was the Asphyx that or hold on, Anubis that helps you Astral Travel. Because I thought...you know, one of the other entries that we were reading about...I think it was the Ankh, that we were talking about Astration and everything, so how come Anubis is connected with Astral Traveling?
KEVIN: I liked the section where it talked about how when ...I guess maybe how it's related to Astration, how if you're calm in the moment of Death and you go through the process calmly, you can improve your development of Astration for the next lifetime. And so I thought it was important to remember that so when the time comes, you know, you can go peacefully...
DEAN: Can you speak up.
KEVIN: ...you can go peacefully through the process, so that maybe next life it'll be easier to astrate.
CARLA: Uhm, all of the wording to me is still uhm complicated, I kinda grasped the concept of it. Uhm and what like what Kevin said about the uhm whole part about not having the Fear as much. Uhm, I like the idea of just not having Fear during the whole Death Process, uhm not even going into the Astration aspect of it. Just, you know, the whole part, about, you know, of going easier instead of making it such a struggle.
CINDY: Uh I, let's see... This passage you know meant a whole lot to me because my Father just recently passing and so I had some questions about that. But uhm, also, I thought of it as...I was thinking about Isis, Anubis and Tao together you know having... being the Preserver of Life, the Giver of life and the Destroyer of Life and that balance and that checks and balance kind of concept like we have in our Congress too. So I was trying to think of it in terms of a balance situation.
JORGE: Well, the way I saw it was, Anubis being a way to uhh deal with Death itself or a Death of sorts in the case of Astration and perhaps other types of little deaths. And uhh it was the Asphyx that was intriguing to know the mechanics behind it. I assume, it's part of the Affinity Factor, as far as when you're...the length of your life, what is pre-decreed as far as the length of your life and if it's not pre-decreed, the mechanics of how the Asphyx works and exactly what that is, was intriguing to me. And uhh the part about A Happening versus A Situation, was a...I kinda got that part, it was kind of interesting, uhm that the situation being transitory creates a...it's just one of many possible situations to create the A Happening which deals with long-term memory. That just was interesting to me, so I might ask some questions on it.
RUTHIE: Well, on the first section where it spoke of the History of Anubis, I liked that pre...I thought about how Death was viewed pre-Christian times, where it was not feared so much as in this society and has been for the last thousands of years and that in fact, they welcomed and viewed it as a friend. Uhm I had a little confusion which I'd like to understand more about the Asphyx, how each individual has an Asphyx and how...the actual process of that. And then on the second page, Hades, In Between Time and Special Schools, I wanted to understand those three concepts and I was...similar to what Cindy said, I was thinking back to when my mother was dying and the last three days of her Death I was on the phone with you a lot and you told me that she was already more on the Other Side than on this side. And she was already, I'm not sure where, but it didn't seem like she was in the In Between Time. I didn't... and I was just applying that particular situation to what I was reading and it's something I'd like to understand more.
DIRK: I thought it was a rather short entry for such a subject that has been one of Mankind's greatest puzzlements...you know, what happens after Death and so on and so forth. Uhm, like everybody else, I have a couple of questions about Hades specifically and about uhh the personal face of Death and if it is possible to meet these Forces of the Universe and if you do meet them, how would you perceive them and so on.
TRUDY: I liked the reading and the part that interested me the most was the part about the In Between Time because it says that you can have an opportunity to learn from your mistakes in this life time. But I have a question about that too because I don't really know if you remember what you learn for the next life time! So that was kinda what I was thinking.
FRAN: I sense that Anubis is one of my best friends. I feel like that there's a connection between that Force and myself...where there was a point when I was at the hospital where I thought, "Hmm, what happens if I die?" Then there was a sense that I was betraying Anubis, an old friend. How could I do that! Like there was a love there and I thought, "Oh no, I get to see my friend." It was kind of a weird feeling that I had. That I couldn't be that selfish, you know. I leave my body and I get to see my buddy! I think that for me it was positive.
HAL: I liked it! It reminded me of Star Wars. [Louder] It reminded me of Star Wars.
THERRY: [Chuckle]
HAL: Where you say, "Among other things it is Anis"...like little Anikin, like Princess Amadeo used to call Annie, "Annie!" So I started thinking about that and I thought, "Geez!" Then he turned into Darth Vadar who's like this dark Death guy." '
[Chuckles]
HAL: So Anubis, Darth Vadar, Annie, Ani...it's good, I liked it!
KEVIN: [Chuckle]
GINA: I liked the reading. I was interested in a couple of different things like the Asphyx. You know, Ani uses...calls upon that Force to, you know, cut the Chord and release you from your body. And I was also wondering about Schools and the In Between Time. I was wondering if you get to like gain wisdom and therefore use it in your next life because you know, if you learn knowledge there, you'll just leave it there. And I don't even know if you could use it down here, so it's the same thing that Trudy said. Yeah...I was wondering also about the relationship between the Asphyx and the Ankh. You know, it just says a paragraph of it. And you get like, "Hmmm"wondering. And uhh, I also wonder about different roles that Ani plays, you know, he enables you to you know, go through the Death Process, also the Blood Mendella, he lets you get out of your body there. You know, are there any other jobs that he has or that Force has that is not in this reading? That's all.
DEAN: Why don't you go ahead and ask the first question. Is that alright? We're done with our [impressions]. Do you have any questions you want to go right into it.
GINA: Yeah, I guess. Uhm when you are in an In Between Time, do you gain wisdom that you can use in your next life?
THERRY: You'll have to speak louder.
GINA: Oh! When you're in the In Between Time, in the Schools that you know, you visit, I guess if you're willing to learn in dreams and you're not caught up in your own dreams and stuff, in those schools, if you gain wisdom...First question, "Do you gain wisdom?"
THERRY: No.
GINA: So it's just knowledge?
THERRY: No.
GINA: An understanding?
THERRY: No.
GINA: Well what do you...?
THERRY: Okay. The In Between Time is a time that is strictly to let the individual detach himself from all the affairs of this life and leave himself open to his next life. That's all it's for. Now, Other World Teachers are very active during the In Between Time. They're...they do what they can to help you detach yourself. Uhh when they cannot, then you are condemned to repeat your life. You can't go forward, you have to go back and do it all over. Uhh...
KEVIN: That's the same life, right?
THERRY: No, not exactly the same because the patterns are the same based on Predestiny.
DIRK: And you're also on that...not on the Astral Plane of Common Reality? Don't you repeat that life wherever the In Between Time?
THERRY: It depends on your Karma.
DIRK: That doesn't make any sense because it seems to me the implication of what you're saying is that there's people who never die!
THERRY: Well nobody ever dies.
DIRK: Well, whatever you want to call it. Whatever word you wanna use to mean going from one vehicle to another. If you're going to repeat your life, how are you going to do that? How can you repeat a life and have a new body on the Astral Plane of Common Reality, if you don't leave the old one?
THERRY: Because you don't need your old one. All you need is the patterns of Predestiny.
DIRK: It doesn't make any sense.
THERRY: Why not?
DIRK: Because of my understanding of what life is on this Planet is that you come to this Planet and you let ...unless you're like an Ascended Master, you have to be born of woman and you have to cloak yourself in a physical vehicle.
THERRY: That's correct.
DIRK: If I get sick and I go to my In Between Time and I refuse to let go, my understanding of what you're telling me is that I can be condemned to not go through the Death Process but to be condemned to re-live my life.
THERRY: No! No! No! No!
DIRK: Okay.
THERRY: You go through the Death Process but you are condemned to reincarnation with the same baggage that you have on you.
DIRK: And what difference is that from someone who does not fight the Death Process? Or don't they reincarnate as well typically?
THERRY: Yes, everybody reincarnates but not everybody goes forward in their growth.
DIRK: Okay.
SANDY: I thought uhm...I don't know where I got this from but I remember you saying once that if it was somebody's time to pass and they didn't pass...
THERRY: That's one of the curses of life. Yeah. For all practical purposes, you might as well forget that.
SANDY: Okay! But what does that relate to though then?
THERRY: Huh?
SANDY: That was a ...was that a human...was that a curse for humans or non-humans?
THERRY: Yeah. That's old Egyptian.
SANDY: Oh, so it wasn't really real.
THERRY: Well, I wouldn't say that!
SANDY: Okay but...
THERRY: But you're not an old Egyptian so I wouldn't worry about it.
SANDY: Okay! [Giggle]
GINA: I just noticed in the reading it says, "Once an individual is finished in his In Between Time, he's somewhat free to take an opportunity to attend Special Schools that seek to teach him about the how of the errors that he committed during his past life..."
THERRY: Yes, when an individual readily gives up his attachments, the Other World Teachers uhh help him understand where his errors were.
TRUDY: But that is just an understanding, it's not wisdom. Or would you gain wisdom from that, so you can use it again?
THERRY: No, it's...he takes that understanding with him when he goes forward.
TRUDY: Okay.
HAL: Excuse me, Therry. I don't think we're being politically correct here. I think we should saying...
THERRY: Because it's part of Predestiny.
HAL: You keep saying "he" for everything. You know, you should say "they."
TRUDY: "They" what?
THERRY: I can't hear you.
HAL: You say, "he," "he," "he" as an example, you should say, "they," right? 'Cause it could be a female.
THERRY: It don't matter.
HAL: I keep thinking that somebody on the outside may be listening to this.
THERRY: We're not talking to people on the outside.
HAL: Okay, sorry!
DIRK: I have a question. At what point during this process does the individual find himself in a place called Hades? And what exactly briefly is that state of being or place called Hades?
THERRY: Okay. Unlike the Christian version, Hades is a state...pseudo-place, state of being where you're not really dead but you're not alive either. It is the place where the In Between Time goes.
DEAN: Is your physical body dead?
THERRY: No, you're too much alive to be called dead but too dead to be called alive.
DEAN: But can't you be...if your physical body has died, can you still be in Hades?
THERRY: No.
DEAN: Somehow, no?
THERRY: No. If the physical has in fact expired, then you go on to your next reincarnation.
DIRK: So Hades is synonymous in some aspects with the In Between Time?
THERRY: The In Between Time takes place in Hades.
DIRK: In that case I have another question. This is not going to be a straightforward, logical question. I know there's a place that humans go...I don't know whether it's when they're about to die, or whether they're in the In Between Time or they're out of the In Between Time but they're recently dead or they're waiting to be judged...I don't know where it is. All I know is, that if you somehow find your way there, there's multitudes of people and I'm trying to find out what the name of that place is or where it is and what function it has. I thought that that was Hades.
THERRY: Well, it is part of Hades.
DEAN: These people are waiting around?
DIRK: Typically, when I've gone there, there's billions of hallways and doors and they're like ants. Some people can't go through certain doors and they go to other ones. Some people don't know where they're going and they're going around in circles. And there are Forces directing things.
THERRY: See, one of the things that they don't understand is the Judgment that they seek, is the Judgment that must come from the self 'cause you are your only judge. It's a case of, you weigh the feather against the baggage. Depending on which is the heaviest, that determines where you go next.
DIRK: So that place, are people considered to be on The Other Side when they're in Hades? And people...
THERRY: Yes, that's when the physical...well, this seems contradictory, but the physical is usually expired when you're there and you can stay there for millions [of years]. Time has no meaning there.
SANDY: So that's a different place than Hades.
THERRY: No, it's part of Hades.
SANDY: Oh, it's part of Hades!
RUTHIE: I have a question tied to what was just said. It was about three years after my mother died and I was able to have an experience where I was able...she came to me and you told me based on what took place that she was a disincarnate at that time.
THERRY: Yes.
RUTHIE: So was she in this place that you are talking about?
THERRY: Yes.
RUTHIE: Waiting to go into her next reincarnation?
THERRY: Yes, yes.
RUTHIE: And was that experience to help her get to her next reincarnation?
THERRY: Partially. Bear in mind that you can't just pop out of one life and pop into the next.
RUTHIE: I thought if you had some major Predestiny such as your...
THERRY: You have to wait until the requirements of Predestiny are satisfied.
RUTHIE: Would some of the individuals here, take...making a generalization here, say the most bloodied sections of Africa or the Middle East where there's constant warfare and bloodshed and the people are obviously trapped in an on-going game, would those individuals quite possibly keep reincarnating into that situation?
THERRY: Correct.
RUTHIE: Very quickly, using a poor term...time.
THERRY: Correct. Relatively quickly.
RUTHIE: But they would still have In Between Time and time in Hades?
THERRY: Yes.
RUTHIE: Whatever that time might be?
THERRY: Yes.
GINA: That was going to be my question, about time. You first said that you go to the In Between Time, that you go through your In Between Time or to Hades when your body is not quite dead. So I was thinking that if, let's say you're dying and here it could be like a couple of seconds, but because there is, you know, different time, you could be going through a lot of things and then when your body expires, then you go to a next life.
THERRY: That's correct.
GINA: Seemingly instant but you go...
THERRY: That's correct.
GINA: But then there's the other...
THERRY: Time on the physical may be ten minutes, twenty minutes but once you get to The Other Side, during those ten or twenty minutes, you may be in that Hall of Waiting for what seems like a million years. It all depends on what your Predestiny and the Alliance of the Rule demands.
DEAN: It could be vice versa too, right?
THERRY: No.
DEAN: It couldn't be whereby a million years have passed here, but it's only a couple of minutes there?
THERRY: No.
DEAN: Really?
JORGE: I have a question about that. When you said that you have to wait for the requirements of Predestiny to pass for the next reincarnation, if that takes a hundred and fifty years, couldn't it seem like it's only a minute on The Other Side?
THERRY: Well, since I've never really stayed there too long, I've never really found out and I've never cared to.
JORGE: From a theoretical standpoint of what you know about time and how it operates there versus here, is that a possibility?
THERRY: Well, it's...I don't think so because the penalty of having to wait and mill around is part of your uhm penalty.
DIRK: My understanding for what it's worth, is that it's like a sign wave where Death and Life are the two aspects of one experience and it can't just all be this side. You have to spend a certain amount of time on The Other Side. It doesn't mean it's necessarily exactly equal but whatever...if we have the experience called Life, there has to be The Other Side of Life and there has to be a certain amount of time, I suspect, spent there. You can't just...like he said, you can't just die and come back. There has to be some corresponding experience to be experienced on The Other Side.
DEAN: That's not how I understand it. Under certain people's Karma, they can go right back into a human body immediately, just as soon as they die.
THERRY: No.
DEAN: Yeah? No?
THERRY: No.
DEAN: I thought we had this discussion...
THERRY: It takes at least forty-nine (49) days. They have to go through the Bar Do Thos Grol.
RUTHIE: Days here or...
DEAN: They have to do what? Hold on, did you say... They go through what?
THERRY: Bar do Thos Grol.
DEAN: The who?
ANDREW: The Bar do Thos Grol, The Book of the Dead, The Egyptian Book of the Dead.
DIRK: Tibetan.
JORGE: Tibetan.
DEAN: Forty-nine (49) days? What, Earth days?
THERRY: Just read the Book.
SANDY: [Giggle]
GINA: Therry, could Ruthie's experience...was it with your mom...with her mom, happen when her mom was dying but then Ruthie didn't receive the experience until a couple of years later? Or was her mom really still stuck there, even though her body had expired already?
THERRY: She was still there.
GINA: Okay.
JORGE: From that person's experience who's "stuck there" could that time period have been anything from...
THERRY: Well because time is so different there, there's nobody on This Side of Life who knows the experiencing of time is over there. We know that time is different but how it's perceived, we'll have to wait 'til we get there.
JORGE: I'd have to imagine it's going to be pretty individualistic as to how it's perceived.
THERRY: Yes.
CINDY: So, Therry, you're able to...'cause you told me when my father died, you knew that he had passed beyond and it didn't take him forty-nine (49) days, it was that very day.
THERRY: Well, he was still...he's still in the Hall of Waiting.
CINDY: Well, what did you mean then when you told me he was already passed. You mean, he had...I don't know what you mean then...
THERRY: He passed the Life...Illusion of Life on this cycle but he's still in the Hall of Waiting. He hasn't reincarnated.
JORGE: So that refers to how quickly they are detached from this Life?
THERRY: Yes.
CINDY: But that's the In Between Time then? That has control over this?
THERRY: Yes.
DEAN: I thought the In Between Time is when your body is still functioning and you're trying to get to The Other Side? And the In Between...once your body expires, there is no more In Between Time. You're like in Hades or wherever, doing your next thing. Is that how it is?
THERRY: Well, there's contrary information there. You're in Hades during your In Between Time.
DEAN: Okay.
THERRY: And when the body has expired, then you're in the Hall of Waiting, which is also...
GINA: In Hades.
THERRY: In Hades.
DEAN: Oh, okay. So you're kinda visiting during your In Between Time but you're permanently there when your body expires.
THERRY: No, not permanently.
DEAN: Permanently...
THERRY: Just waiting 'til your next incarnation.
DEAN: Okay.
KEVIN: Where are the Schools that we were talking about that you can go?
THERRY: Other World Teachers.
KEVIN: But where? Are they in Hades too?
DIRK: I know some of them are in the Hall of Waiting.
THERRY: Hall of Waiting.
KEVIN: Okay.